In-Depth Overview of Current Trends and Insights in Comics and Media

Summary

The discussion centers on recent developments and trends in the comic book industry, creator compensation, publishing dynamics, and the intersection of comics with other media like film and television. Key topics include the evolution of comic book publishing formats, remarkable sales figures for titles such as GI Joe and TMNT, and shifting distribution strategies. There is a strong emphasis on creator rights and compensation, highlighting historical struggles and present challenges. The conversation extends into notable artist and writer contributions, adaptations of comic content, and the role of legacy properties. The dialogue also touches on broader pop culture intersections including Halloween costumes inspired by comic and movie characters, reactions to high-profile films and directors, and archival collections of comic art and history.

The speakers plan to split their content into three show types—news, reviews, and deep dives—to cater to varied audience preferences, acknowledging differing listener moods and interests. They emphasize the diversity of the comic audience and evolving consumption habits.

Highlights

• 🎉 GI Joe #1 set to be the top-selling comic of the year with over 225,000 pre-orders.
• 🐢 TMNT’s sales continue strong but face challenges from oversaturation and variant complexity.
• 📚 Rise of independent publishers and print-on-demand remastered collections (e.g., First Comics).
• 💸 Ongoing debate on fair compensation for comic creators, underscoring historic and current inequities.
• 🎨 Recognition of artists like Daniel Warren Johnson and Greg Hilderbrand for shaping modern comic aesthetics.
• 🎥 Insights on comic-to-film adaptations and the impact of creative control in Hollywood (e.g., James Gunn, Tarantino).
• 👻 Increasing role of nostalgia-driven storytelling with references to classic properties and historical continuity.

Key Insights

• 🐍 Strategic Content Segmentation Reflects Changing Consumer Behavior
  The decision to produce three types of shows—news, reviews, deep dives—recognizes that comic fans engage differently based on mood and interests. News delivers timely updates, reviews provide evergreen content, and deep dives satisfy die-hard fans craving detailed analysis. This approach exemplifies how media creators must adapt formats for diverse consumption habits in an age of abundant information.
• 📊 GI Joe’s Resurgence Demonstrates Effective Franchise Relaunching
  The impressive pre-order numbers for GI Joe indicate the success of a carefully orchestrated relaunch. The synergy of miniseries, strategic artwork, and continuity management under Skybound’s stewardship has reinvigorated a brand once struggling with low readership. It underscores how legacy IPs can be revitalized through coordinated storytelling and marketing, appealing both to nostalgic fans and new readers.
• 🛍️ Variant Cover Overproduction Can Saturate and Confuse Market
  Reports of extreme variant counts, such as TMNT’s 60 variants for a single issue by one store, illustrate the pitfalls of excessive variant marketing. While variants can drive collector interest, over-saturation may alienate casual buyers and complicate retail ordering. This dynamic highlights ongoing tensions between creating collectible allure versus maintaining accessibility.
• 🖌️ Creator Compensation Remains a Complex and Contested Issue
  The conversation reveals continued frustrations over how comic creators, both past and present, are (or aren’t) fairly compensated for their work, especially when properties become major media franchises. References to Stanley and Lee, as well as creators like Larry Hama and Daniel Warren Johnson, spotlight contractual nuances and the struggle for royalties or residuals in an industry still evolving its business model.
• 🎥 Hollywood’s Handling of Comic IPs Reflects Broader Questions of Creative Control
  Discussion around filmmakers like James Gunn and Quentin Tarantino illustrates the tension between original comic creators, studio executives, and creative directors in film adaptations. Examples such as Gunn’s efforts to respond to fan concerns and Tarantino’s controversial remarks on Joker 2 point to the challenges of maintaining fidelity to source material while innovating for new audiences.
• 📖 Archival and Reprint Projects Cater to Collector and Historical Interest
  The emergence of print-on-demand remasters of older, often obscure comics (e.g., works from First Comics and Fireside collections) captures a growing segment of enthusiasts interested in comic history and legacy content. While these projects add value by preserving and enhancing classic works, questions around royalty distribution and market demand remain.
• 👻 Nostalgia and Continuity as Pillars of Comic Book Storytelling
  There is heavy reliance on intertwining history and nostalgia in current comic narratives and branding—a strategy that sustains engagement but also risks alienating new readers if continuity becomes too convoluted. The balance between honoring legacy (think Larry Hama’s continuity, Tim Sale’s artwork) and evolving storylines is critical.

Additional Notes

• The ongoing challenges for major superhero franchises—like Batman experiencing a plateau despite large title counts—indicate a fragmented market where overexposure diminishes enthusiasm, even for long-standing icons.
• The role of artists as both visual storytellers and creative contributors is highlighted; coloring choices, page layouts, and cover art significantly affect audience reception.
• Pop culture discussions extend into Halloween costume trends, reflecting the cultural impact of comics and related media.
• Commentary on the podcasting and video format evolution shows the importance of adapting to audience analytics and feedback to optimize engagement.

By synthesizing industry insights, creator issues, and audience engagement, this conversation offers a comprehensive snapshot of the multifaceted comic media landscape in transition.

Timeline of Major Mentions and Topics

FAQ

Q1: Why is GI Joe’s #1 pre-order significant?
A1: It surpasses recent top performers, showing a strong reboot strategy successfully tapping nostalgic and new readership.

Q2: What’s the problem with excessive variant covers?
A2: Oversupply confuses buyers, strains retailers, and may alienate non-collector readers.

Q3: Are comic creators fairly compensated today?
A3: Compensation remains inconsistent; while some receive royalties or upfront fees, many struggle with limited residuals, especially from film/TV adaptations.

Q4: How do film adaptations affect original creators?
A4: Rights and royalties often cause tension; control over adaptations varies widely, and recognition is sometimes limited.

Q5: What role does nostalgia play in comics now?
A5: Nostalgia drives engagement but risks alienation if stories become overly complex or repetitive.

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well we did it we did it again recording let’s get that uh we gotta get that intro music done that slaping the base so we’re gonna break it up so we need to do the announcement announcement or feedback from our fan M coule three fans got a couple got a couple they we would rather have the the the they see the three hour and it’s daunting and even in the analytics it’s not people aren’t doing more than doing like an hour so so we’re going to do we’re going to try and break it up do

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three shows we’re going to record all day today and then so we’re going to have a news show a review show and then a deep dive so that way people can kind of pick what they like people like different I know us when we listen to shows we like different things in different shows depends on our mood and then we sometimes we miss the middle I just know a show right now where I’m like all right let me do the reviews in the beginning then I go right to the letters I don’t care about their middle

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stuff I just go and I go right to the end so and I’ve always had a thing for Comic news you know like I just love like give me the news right away I I want to news what funny is the reviews are kind of Evergreen but news nobody goes back and watches old news no right exactly but uh but you know we kind we TR do try to keep it interesting and uh we do everything we do we we weave through history like if we’re doing news oh here’s history reviews here’s history we just we just want to share everything

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we know right right right yeah let me just even if people don’t want to hear it history they can turn it off there’s plenty plenty to look at That’s What We complain about there’s so much stuff to consume so it’s hard so if they gota if you gotta go you gotta go we understand yeah um so interesting we’ve been we know we talk about sales a little bit it’s hard because sales necessarily aren’t because there’s not like diamond distribution sales list because there’s

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not it’s hard they don’t have to report the sales but when numbers hit a certain level they try to throw them out there so now that they all have their own distributor they don’t have to tell us and they could be like it’s all good that’s all we need to know that’s all they feel we need to know it sold good right right so T Turtles had so the biggest the big news of the week essentially I thought was basically the GI Jo pre-orders hit 225,000 Which is higher than Turtles it was the that

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had the highest pre-orders um a lot of that had to do with turtles doing their own individual like one store did how many 60 variants something crazy um and that’s Hey listen you know whatever works for you if your store can handle that go ahead great you know what I mean great absolute Batman I don’t think I wrote my numbers right correct correct here I’m confused with that but it was it it beat Turtles but is not as not as it was 210,000 something like that and 30,000 in second prints so a

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little less than quarter of a million but now that’s but on first print gi. Joe pre-orders so far GI Joe number one might be the number one one of the year um which is incredible for a GI Jo com because they’ve done a good job building up to this launch you know here’s the Destro miniseries here’s a Duke miniseries here’s some some Transformer stuff weaved in and then it’s like and here’s the big launch so you know I’m glad for them IDW was struggling I think the one GI Joe comic was down to like

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2000 you know right that’s rough that’s I I don’t even know what you’re paying your creators at that point like are you just right the rebranding yeah to go over to skybound and I know the skybound the big thing that you know you like so much and I agree with you is that that they were basically like can you give the stipulation is yeah can you just keep Larry Hammer’s run going for the fans yes and they’ve upped it they’ve made it here’s here’s a good artist here’s some

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good covers you know yeah it definitely got the it’s got a good roll out it’s a separate continuity um it doesn’t not it doesn’t matter but like I can my brain’s easy it’s easy enough for me to read that continuity different when I read duke it feels different and I know it’s different and I know it’s a different continuity and I’m fine you know I’m just totally fine um I will go back and say and I’ve said this to you a couple times so gi. Joe has had if we did just

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pure numbers maybe we’ll do this maybe I’ll do this next week how many GI Joe minis we had this year four four times 46 we’ve had about a dozen almost 20 because I think I think Scarlet’s going five issues right or I think all of them are four or five yeah so I mean and and some Collections and you have GI Joe going which is probably about a 10 10 or 10 or 12 by now we only have one Transformers book and I know that I feel that when they got announced wasn’t an announced with dannyel Warren Johnson

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doing that and then he was going to do a Optimus Prime series am I imagining that in the original press release is that a Mandela effect I don’t know I feel like you’re right yeah got away with that because Daniel War Johnson I guess made he made a deal saying Hey I want to be the only trans and you know what it does keep all the it keeps all the attention on that comic and rightfully so and Kirkman just plays around with Boyd Rivals with some of the the weirder Transformer season 3 characters you know yeah and I just I

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just wonder if you just left money on the table but that being said I was at a shop this week and they have like they have like an Enon section and I’ll get in this in our third show or de di show and they had ninth printing of number one something like that because it was a newer cover and it looked more like toy cover like it had a toy TR it had a toy Optimus Prime kind of coming at you meaning that it was Optimus Prime but it was it it looked like it was drawn from like a toy almost it was very like kind

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of stiff it was cool but I’m just like man it’s ninth printing like who’s buying and then the covers were good the the whitish covers I liked a lot you know so hope hopefully we get like a super give me like an art book or something give me a $50 art book or I don’t know I just hope that the people kind of a pain with that stuff so I hope that the people buying the ninth printing they’re they could be cover collectors they just like it’s nice to have all the covers of something but I

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do hope they’re reading it like please be reading this comic don’t just be buying it like a Card Collector got this at the uh one shop I’ll talk about later nice dude yeah but always get if you get any of these guys get ones that say tune tumblers on it they’re a little more expensive but they don’t like fall apart like the ones that say Marvel whoever they just license it to to go into Target or Marshalls no don’t do those because if you wash them three times in hot water they they’d fall apart yeah

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these guys last forever the t t t one lasts forever so they’re a little more expensive they might be like you know 15 11 and the 15 bucks maybe 20 bucks limited ones are 25 but I don’t usually have those yeah they’re they’re making a higher quality uh item our friend Brian his his uh his stepdad owns a t-shirt printing Factory company a small one and whenever we go and buy t-shirts that say a concert or something we always give it to him and he runs it through the dryer again because the t-shirts that you buy

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concert are so quickly made they’re not dried enough so if you watch them a couple times they they will start falling apart so he does that final curing I guess you call you know and like and those tumblers are probably cured properly and that’s why they won’t uh chip away like a like a cheaply made yeah yeah you know that’s that’s so funny you say that because me and my daughter we went to go see Bikini Kill and they said the last time they were in uh Philadelphia they played a parking garage the top of a

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parking garage I know exactly what they were talking about because I I went to like the end of it I was there I was over there it was like 94 I think I want to say um and they said if anyone bought shirts then we’re we’re sorry we made them in our apartment but we didn’t do that curing whatever process he’s like so you wased it they’re gone whatever decal was on there was gone so if you can tell us where it was will give you a shirt wow and I was like I know where it was but I didn’t buy a

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shirt I don’t want to go back and like Hey listen you know like but I know where it was it was like near that pug and pole like where that one thing it’s right off Second Street anyway but yeah they played a the top of a parking garage so that was crazy just crazy crazy uh anyway so back to the numbers so yeah so having gi. Joe so I guess my biggest issue with that is that so ener John’s going strong they had a proper build so that’s why the GI Joe is like okay here’s a big like continuity number

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one you know so and you got the right guy I that the guy Dre duuk is the best artist Tom Riley he’s the best artist for it it’s really something so I’d be curious on the coloring palette because I feel like the different um the different GI Jo’s had slightly different palettes but a little more traditional I really like the the color palette they use for uh Jed Real American Hero but I feel like it has to be that’s own thing because they do some type of like it’s not retro coloring but they’re

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doing this like three the little dots they’re doing something in that and it holds because I told you this like I didn’t want Paul pal tier coming in after Mooneyham and I’m like I don’t want this I don’t want this guy guy’s been around for 30 40 years and I just don’t I’m not excited by it and then I was like oh man and I almost forgot so like the most recent shoe I was like well the coloring is so consistent in it that it that’s holding it for me and the layouts were great and it was really

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good so I I say correct it good so yeah it’s smart to be correct it because I’ll I’ll bring that up later when we talk about Spider-Man like you can have an opinion and then be totally wrong or be proven wrong yeah yeah but it’s so there isn’t really a not that you’re wrong it’s just that you may think one thing yeah and then you see something else you’re like all right you know I could be wrong it happens um wrong most of my marri most of my marriages are wrong the but like but to have like

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the the the total like hold of like that cartoon Nostalgia is so much of the marketplace now it’s kind of something else you know what I mean because those were almost like not they’ just been discounted previously you know what I mean they were like now Comics had an okay green like there’s your had an okay Green Hornet yeah yeah it’s like we don’t it doesn’t it didn’t it now it’s the opposite now it’s like you know Thundercat week was excellent you know like I just like gez like uh so and that

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that but that took a little while to get like it’s not really it’s footing but like it took while me to get in there but but I could hear the music in it while I’m reading it I’m like gosh like you know was like because they say he says something and then it goes into this other action sequence and then uh oh I don’t know just like it’s it’s they’re I think all of them are operating on a certain like perfect level so I’m curious on how I know it was a slow build

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orchestration they took they took what they learned from The Nostalgia wave of the early 2000s when dream wave had Transformers and Devil’s do had GI Joe they took what that did right and re brought it back but they they learned the lessons you know and they’re coming in with a higher uh with a bigger plan you know I don’t want to say they’re better writing but you know it’s a bigger plan it’s like we know where we’re going kirkman’s got years laid out for all these books you know and I hope

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nothing ever leaks and kirkman’s pretty good at that he’s been in the Hollywood system for a while so he knows how to keep stuff secret for sure yeah yeah and I think that the build is right like I said I have to get it’s kind of exciting to know I have stuff on Deck you know I started to to dip a little further into the ghost machine stuff this week I went back and tried to read some of the other uh like I have I have to catch up on void Rivals which I tried to this week but you know life life’s going on so I

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couldn’t really do it but I I like that I know when that’s there it’s going to be satisfying yeah period and then I know that it’s going to like fold in so before GI Joe comes in I have to kind of catch up on a couple of Minis and just just have that ready you know Transformers is always the top when that comes out period you know so so no I I I guess I guess you’re right I mean I get but I have to kind of give it to that I mean kirkman’s always believed in Daniel Warren Johnson he’s had he’s pretty much

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had his books since extremity you know right space mullet was on his own where was that was that Darkhorse originally I’m trying to remember what happened there a little confused I don’t I think I only read the the image trade yeah and then he did read it and then he did a Justin Jordan I think he did like a contract job because I have that book over there I forget what it’s called but um he did like a contract Dan W did like a contract job and then he did extremity so and they just re recently reprinted

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that I have to look at that anyway but um so yeah so he’s always been very Pro that but I’d be curious if like what’s next because his his book now his uh greater own book that’s still through Sky everything’s through skybound through him right basically and the difference between skybound is they give them the money up front is that kind of the way that the skybound works a little bit it might be but I know skybound takes a bigger piece of your pie because they’re representing

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you in Hollywood I think it’s part of the deal is I don’t and you know what each deal is different I’m sure they don’t I’m sure Daniel Warren Johnson now doesn’t need skybound but the relation Rel ship so good and they do a great job promoting his books you know why would he leave let him concentrate on the creative end because the business end sucks if you’re creative just like a creative end sucks if you’re a business guy you know right yeah let him just do I mean let him Focus he’s always it’s

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it’s consistently going and and even going back to that is the G is the um when when Hy Corona came in we’re like well no no no and then but the coloring and every all the other production that he’s built around him like Spicer and I forget who letter if that’s Russ Wooten like the people that are around them have been the same so it’s gonna have that same feel um even him doing a page or two in and was the Moon is following us like him doing a page or two here and there it’s still holding that continuity

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correctly so it’s still me mega works period so so yeah just just really really exciting but again I just I just I wouldn’t mind like a B or C Level uh um give me like a c spray one shot I don’t I don’t know you know I feel like it’s so different because when I look at the the IDW like they’d have a um what’s that wind wasn’t there win something there was like a wi guy Sky win I don’t know I feel like all all the little one shots that they had over at IDW I’m like

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I don’t care about this character I read one shot yeah but the spotlights were always kind of good like they’re all kind of and it all built towards a bigger story yeah sure yeah so is it is it is it more interesting to try to tell your entire story within the confines of your comic but then then I feel like we’re not getting enough Comics you know we love Comics yeah I want more comics like I want more give me more of stuff um I don’t know it’s it’s tough to say but I mean that being said like it

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almost kind of goes to you know gi. Joe ran for how long like almost 150 issues or something and then maybe so double double the Marvel Transformers run you know what I mean so there’s always kind of been precedent 80 something right yeah 81 that yeah I forget but um yeah it was weird because when you know I when a devil’s dude did GI Jo he thought he was doing a continuation of Larry hamama story but then he then he hired lar Hama to do other books and then when AIW got it they’re like we’re just gonna hire lar

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Hama and I don’t think lar Hama Incorporated Devil’s do story I think he just like nope here’s where I ended at Marvel here right then they eventually renumbered it they eventually like started to yeah you know and that’s that’s fine you know I did I did like the devil’s do stuff and they were smart to hire J Scott Campbell to do covers right the big GI Joe fan and he he was so good at it I think when they had I think when they had the rights devil doing the rights for GI Joe Marvel still somehow

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had the rights for the trades so Marvel starts to put out the trades and smartly they get Jay Scott Campbell to do new trade cards right right right yeah yeah there was a big oversize that I wish I would have bought because it had a real big his Recreation number one and it was like an oversized hard cover this one shop and I didn’t buy it and they recolored and that also had the isent issue in it and you know which I eventually want to just own and have not a not a huge not a huge expensive key

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but something I think I should just own you know yeah I have to I have to get a list of the keys I want we’ll have to do that on a future like deep dive like here’s the keys that I want that are important to me I never had a a first cable I had a first Deadpool sold it you know like but I feel like I want that back you know um uh I sold my Hulk it’s not even really it’s the the The Amazing Spider-Man punching Hulk and the dick to the Moon you know on the cover beautiful comic punch that dick um so but but

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that’s not even a key but that’s like it’s such a cool wall book you know what I mean like it’s such a good looking you know and I have a wall book I have Wall books downstairs basically I have a big uh Brave fol Spotlight right now you know which we’ll get into later so um so Second Story so that is all but yeah interesting that the number one book is not a Batman book which is you know Batman arguably started comics in a way I mean Superman did yes but Batman is covered last week is is since 80 85 86

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like has has been the predominant you know even to the point where like people joked about like well DC Comics means Detective Comics but you might as well call it Batman B BC BC Batman because because there’s so many there’s like 40 Batman books out of the lineup but there’s like eight Superman books is um but the Batman has kind of hit a wall from what some retailers are saying like it’s just too much people are car and that’s what the absolute Batman did right and made people care again the

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Brave and the Bold series should be cancelled I I feel like that the as I said before the they’re they’re making a bunch of stories that could be interesting but they don’t feel like they could be they don’t have the commence in them being on them on their own I would have bought that dead man Batman as a one shot or a Min series or or a 64 pager I think it ended up being almost 64 pager as of Kelly Jones no we knew it was out but the public wouldn’t grab it there’s no way anyone would have grabbed that issue

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because it had the same Simone Deo cover that looked like issue issue seven looked the same issue to it doesn’t look any different the covers are just trading cards you know like they’re just they’re just they’re it’s just pictures it’s nothing that that’s representative inside and I just don’t know what that book’s doing because it has four books eight there’s four stories in it at least yeah they had like a green arrow story in it last week I’m like doesn’t

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Green Arrow have a book why is this in here like what I don’t understand I don’t understand that book that makes me insane anyway um but yeah interesting than that that absolute bman I just figured absolute Batman be like right there absolute Batman absolute Superman absolute may maybe Turtles gi. Joe absolute Wonder Woman five I don’t know just out of my brain that’s what I would think the the top of the year not gi. Joe transform or or gi. Joe Batman Turtles um I don’t know what absolute

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your man is is clocking just yet you know oh this is a bit of news this is side news it’s not in here I I disagree with DC’s use of the Jim Lee the Jim Le uh the Jim Lee hush Batman story you know that they’re putting like a four-page prequel do you know about this in Justice League Unlimited They just added it was not in the original solicits they added a four-page prequel then they added two variants which was basically a hush painted sketch that he did in 2020 so one of the covers but it’s like

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literally like one and 25 so they added a ratio variant DC says Hey four pages added to Justice League Unlimited well there was something there was some article I think Bing Cole had it where like by the way this is positioned it will now beat absolute Wonder Woman Justice League Unlimited numbers were not going to be near absolute Wonder Woman but they will be now because basically you they have all these additional things so that’s going to be number two so be absolute Batman just League Unlimited I don’t know where

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absolute Superman is falling but absolute one Roman did better than expected so now J Li is going to jump in that second because of this variant which is a sketch no and then and then they then they then they colored the sketch Alex Clair colored the sketch and then they took the the date out the second sketch cover I hate it I just I just I don’t get it I listen I like the sketch listen the fact that the fact that they’re doing that they they have enough Tim sale artwork to do 10 issues of

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covers 10 issues of covers repurpose it cut out the date he’s passed rest in peace you know too soon um and then have the second artist like that’s the best the best production of of the of besides the Titan books the best production is this new long Halloween colon last Halloween Batman colon long Halloween colon last Halloween lot of it’s the best it’s the best production because because they come out digitally they put out the main cover and in the back they show you the alternate cover which is the artist of

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the book then they show you the ratio cover they have the J Scott Campbell ratio cover so like I I just think I just don’t think I don’t like the way DC’s playing this they’re just like all right well I I understand what they’re doing they’re basically saying like well listen we’re not going to just have this line because if you remember when when Marvel did their ultimates it was like ultimates is this and everyone everyone else kind of crappy like you know you know what I mean and I understand that

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they’re saying like well we’re all relevant all in right all in all in all in they’re trying to just say like well we’re so relevant over here too so they want that that to be a bit more of the of the main stay I get it I just think it’s a it’s a little bit of a cheat you know it’s crazy that Justice League we haven’t had Justice League book in a couple years and you got Mark Wade Dan MOA you got a phenomenal team on a Justice League book and there’s no excitement for it

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it’s not charting right it’s not charting for it no I mean I’m excited for it but yeah there there’s no online chatter people don’t seem to I mean they care about enough to make it sell better than GI Joe I mean we’re talking about Justice League about Mark we finally running Justice League like right which he did almost 30 years ago 2o you know following greant Mar Brian hitch yeah with like right which was the hottest start at that time and then you know so he’s doing it again yeah and and I know

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listen I know it’s going to be fun and and it’s more so in line with the you know the Dwayne McDuffy the just League Unlimited fine give me the satellite fine fine fine you know I just we’ll see you know we’ll see I just think it’s a bit of a it’s a bit of a cheat so anyway uh moving on from DC news um we’ll go back to DC some other stuff later but the the first this was interesting so early in the week I know last week we talked about Mike Baron doing like a Punisher s character like shooting

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immigrants at the border uh so Mike Baron so this came out and I also think it’s really weird that I I don’t think I knew this because it’s always a logo but in press releases first Comics which was pretty you know which was pretty big in the 80s with a lot of you know elrick lot a lot of stuff uh Badger um was Nexus first under first ises that sound right yes yeah that’s first that that was owned by Mike gold right yes right exactly who when first kind of folded he went to DC right he’s a big he was a big

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proponent of Eric Larson at DC like he was really trying to get Eric Larson to do Teen Titans so like early on that that’s who got Eric Larson on Doom Patrol that’s who got him the tager origins jobs Alo everything Larson at DC was my goal and when DC’s like yeah we don’t want this guy like on Titans Marvel just scooped him up like he was already working at Marvel he was going back and forth but Mike gold really wanted him on like he really saw something in him which is uh you know

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which is unfortunate for DC but better for us because eventually he lands on Spider-Man and AR Lon that everyone loves but yeah so first comics in the 80s I think started by Mike gold a Chicago guy and he was getting a lot of Chicago based people to work for him um not that he’s from Chicago but like uh was it um what did you get through who who who else was that first was it Mike Ral yeah I want to say that I feel like that was um I don’t know if that was Scout and all that stuff Dave Stevens right da

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Jack you know Rocketeer yeah I can’t I can’t remember if that was the star Slayer stuff like because I feel like a lot of that stuff like broke apart whoever that was and I feel like some of that stuff went over was star Slayer under under um who did um it was Bill Sheamus’s company Pacific yeah Pacific so I feel like some of that stuff they were at Pacific and then they like left Pacific and then went with first but first in a press release is really crazy because it’s literally the number one and then

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first and that’s how the logo is but to see it in like in like pure text is just goofy looking it’s funny but Mike Baron’s coming back to Badger in January was published 83 at Capital okay Capital close here we go I actually have history in my notes Here here we go that was like capital and then that closed and it went to first and then first closed and then and then it went to Darkhorse image IDW Devils do blue water and now it’s back at first wow so that’s probably like that maybe that’s the most I want

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that’s the most jumps if if that that maybe let’s see uh Capital first uh Darkhorse image IDW Devil’s do that’s seven seven back to one okay Hey listen he owns it you know and what’s funny is I I actually put I literally because I’m going through my boxes which we go through later I have some uh I I had it when I was younger if you remember when Stephen Butler jumped on to badger there’s a really it was a lot of ads a lot of ads and it has him on the cover with like numchucks and

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and it was awesome looking um so I have that and then there was actually like I think in one of these and whether been Devil’s do or I think it was Devil’s do or Bluewater they had a Resurgence and they had him omage is own cover Ste Stephen Butler I’m a big Steph Butler fan he knows that because I I put stuff on my Instagram all the time and he always he always likes it or writes to me on my my Instagram which is awesome so hug Stephen Butler I’ve Stephen Butler coming up later as well so so

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interesting but then when I went on their website uh they must have the rights to I think it was star reach and that was a lot a lot of star reach was like Frank Brunner and I think that was through I think that was originally through first Anthology um and then they’re go they have a bunch of them remastered like warp I think it was either warp or or Star reach they’re kind of the same they’re very similar and he hasn’t it says it’s recolored and I think it’s one of those print on demand things because

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like it’s a weird number it’s like $28 and the cover is a new Frank Brunner cover and I’m like oh I don’t know if I want this you know what I mean like I don’t know if I have them I own them but I’m like H that’s tough you know but I’d be curious to see what that’s like seems like they have a lot of online offers they have a print on demand cool their website’s okay it’s so it’s it’s you know it’s a little it’s a little uh late 90s is in the clicks and stuff but but

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overall okay but yeah I’m interested I want to see what happens but they they mentioned in that press release that they’re they’re back you know that they’re coming further and further back so that’s interesting you know I want all this stuff to kind of keep populating um next story back to DC I thought this was interesting now you know my feelings on Raphael Albuquerque because I was really mad then it ends up working out but rapael Albuquerque went on with Ramy in um DC when Ramy was doing his operatic

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two year maybe almost I think it was 30 some issues of of detective comics and RF Albuquerque came on and he like had very specific page layout reminded me a little bit of like J Williams of 30 had very specific things he was doing in the book itself and he was on like five issues man and then it was gone and then it went to like a couple people which I didn’t think would fit went to Ivan Reyes which I was like no I don’t want that and then I really liked it and then GM March came on at the end really like

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that so I like that run overall but he’s never done a long-term Series so I wonder he was so the thing that came out this week is that basically it was an interview with some Spanish podcast or something and he worked for almost a year and a lot of his elements are in the absolute Superman launch with Jason Aaron now Jason Aaron is working with him in on some Turtle stuff which the Turtle stuff me and you were still confused with who is the artist I don’t know because I feel like there’s a bunch of people

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attached to it and then they added Juan Ferrera like on to issue five but it was supposed to go to Chris Burnham who isn’t necessarily fast Joel Jones is not fast so having all these people that are there Cliff Chang Cliff Chang might be kind of fast but the the Wonder Woman run but like who’s drawing Turtles it seems like a bunch of one shots right now which is fine and that actually tracks yeah tracks with how Turtles works yeah um so he’s not upset with Jason Aaron because he talks about

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Jason Aaron in the in the interview but he worked for a year and his smoke Cape is the the cape which the it’s not spoilers you at least know that right you know the Smokey Cape thing I I have tried to avoid spoilers and I won’t say anymore but there’s a different piece of the cape the cape has a different origin and other stuff that’s all I’ll say just as like you understand the Batman’s origins of his of the cape and the the thing on his chest and like there’s tons

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of costumey things which I think is pretty cool and even though like even Wonder Woman has uh basically like a final fantasy like swordy thing that was that giant sword there really isn’t you know funny I love comic news but I hate spoilers well yeah and I’ll get to I’ll get to that my next story too but I do think it’s interesting he did mention to say you know he’s still working with Jason Aaron he does he says I prefer he says I prefer to leave the project and I’m thrilled for Rafa sandel was picked

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now my question is from a from a uh which actually dub tals into the next story um I’m surprised at how well these stories fall to each other but does he get any money did does he get any money for that these people get they don’t get paid per project they don’t get paid per concept they get paid for page rate he probably gets something he get at the very least the kill fee you know right yeah he get I think he gets something I’ve heard of other creators in the past I don’t you know I

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don’t know his in particular deal but you know you work on you own nothing so they have to they have to Buy’s working on the biggest IP so I would think he owns Beyond nothing a lot of sketches there’s the paperwork the documents he has to sign the agreements the contracts it’s a lot uh Eric Larson said when he had done the dragon Superman crossover the paperwork like almost killed his initiative to do the book right right yeah and you can’t like accidentally create something like you

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have to you know you either have to use existing DC stuff or you know it’s very hard to create something new even though you all you as fans we want something new but we also love the old but back to the point yeah did he get something he he had to have gotten something because they they need him to uh sign off of everything he did create okay yeah no that makes sense yeah that makes sense Marvel when Marvel wanted to make the Deadpool core they went to lifei first like hey create Lady Deadpool create dog pool create baby

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pool because it’s easier to deal with one person co-creating characters that he already created mhm um and that’s what you that’s what you do like uh I’m trying to think uh derivatives when you have to create derivative it’s better to go to the original Creator right right right okay I mean you can’t do that like you can’t do that with spider Gwen you can’t do that you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah and that’s a bummer because I feel like that that that I think Marvel has done

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with Sony I mean look who who designed her is it Robbie Reyes uh Robbie Rodriguez Rodriguez that’s right yeah so Robbie Rodriguez and then I almost want to say that Rico Rico renzi who I believe is partially cancelled because he’s a conservative um he I think is more responsible for that book success a little bit because I feel like the color palette of that book uh was lifted for especially the second Spider-Man movie having the the tones and the and the mooding coloring uh yeah I don’t know if I would sue but I mean

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like holy mackerel like and and I also didn’t like and you remember I think I put this in our our our our messenger group chat they kept tweaking that movie and there was nothing wrong with that movie the movie came out so the second Spider-Man movie come out uh you know into acoss across SP number let’s try to be clear about things because you and I have a lot of short cuts and right right right we’re I’m already in it you’re already with me so I know where you are I know where you’re going I know what

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you’re gonna say because put it in the chat and I yelled about it because they they literally kept tweaking the movie and they kept doing these digital patches on the the movie as it was coming out so there’s a very the beginning of that uh spidergwen story she’s playing the drums and and she’s having her own flashbacks and having her own freak out and everyone in in the Mary Janes band it’s like what is wrong with you they do it in the movie fine then they literally cut panels from the comic and just kind

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of put the panels in there slightly redrawn but it’s the same panels and then they they plop them in the newest version which I think is the version you can buy right I think I bought it so it’s like but now I don’t have the original version which I had no problem with but now I feel like you’re cripping too much from the original art and I’m like BL and then I even even with that like so I I know that Rico’s not gonna get anything I know Robbie’s not gonna they might get royalties off the books

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probably so minuscule Jason Lor is cancelled um the uh David LZ who’s doing the um uh who always who kind of pioneered the the Spider-Man Noir the writer right it was Clayton Worley I think there was a couple people Aron Campbell so he’s got that whole Spider-Man Noir Amazon series are they gonna get a dollar and this literally goes into my next story right yeah I don’t know you don’t it depends on the contract lield had a great contract that’s why they went back to him he and he he had to

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reach out like he contct is that like kind of the remnants of the gym shooter yeah and Bob Harris might have even upped it some for him um I think LEL had to reach out when they created a gwenpool he’s like really gwenpool you’re just gonna put a Gwen Stacy in a Deadpool costume and not like acknowledge that you know or or a vom pool you know was gwenp dead is that that’s gone they haven’t talked about her yeah I feel like it’s gone they even tried to make her not be Gwen Stacy I

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remember like she’s like what makes you think I’m Gwen Stacy I’m just different Gwen I’m like dumb we we know what you are yeah that’s some writer trying to make it trying to separate it from everything else but Venom pool’s super popular people love the idea of Venom pool especially L Lille didn’t create Venom pool but he loves them he puts them in like all his books right right it’s probably it’s probably Falls maybe it falls but I’m not even sure if like

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the split goes to uh McFarland the right way and I don’t know you know I think Deadpool was all entirely I think that animal of how many characters he created life created versus uh and I don’t even agree Falls in last week’s combo I don’t even agree that McFarland created vom you know I don’t even really agree with that right that was that was a melini outline what surprised for a while when you see the script when vom shows up for the first time he smiles and shows his teeth and I’m like oh that’s in the

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script for some reason I thought that like mcfarling added the teeth or something you know or the big smile but when when the Black SB costume was on Peter marker he never smiled I felt like that was just going to be a continuation but then you know molini wrote that in script I’m like oh that’s not a McFarland creation but let’s face it if if any other artist were drawing am Spider-Man Venom would just be another villain and not the if Ron friends was drawing it we oh dude I was gonna say Ron friends I I didn’t

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want to come off I don’t want to come off we do he’s he’s best he had like an 80ish euron of Thor which I have over there and I love it you know what I mean and and and and we didn’t understand Ron friends at the time but Ron friends would draw and we just like I don’t know like because it was he was homaging which I didn’t understand he was homaging uh Kirby I didn’t understand that and then I went then I liked his stuff more and more and then I more understood later what he was doing yeah

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he’s an incredible Storyteller he’s got good eyes he’s and he’s super friendly he’s not gonna flourish uh teeth uh like that he’s not going to do the same uh page layouts McFarland would do it’s a totally different McFarland was creating uh a piece of art with his Spider-Man run he was doing something different and Venom came in at the right time and it just it just flourished you know and Ron FR I was so weird you said Ron FR that was gonna be like if Ron friend Drew it

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not insulting Ron FR no that’s the thing that we’re very like we we understand all the all the lanes you know we understand all the fits Ron friend probably took some I’m gonna quote my buddy Walt here Ron FR probably took some Guff for like being too kirish Marvel more wanted a bua for meita you know there was a was a harder house style then M you know and I think he did take some some Flack for uh being so kirish you know yeah it’s weird Marvel sometimes really wanted that like with Keith early Keith

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GI is super Curby until he found his his own footing rest in peace Keith given um God he was so good yeah his early Defenders work is like crazy it’s crazy like that moonight when I think I’ve had that on one of my Instagram posts I’ve got a lot of whiches moonlight like jumping at the camera like this and like it’s so weird looking you know and the depth of so strange um but yeah very very very very heavy very very heavy Kirby and then moved away um but yeah we don’t we try

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not to stay and that’s why you know I it’s hard to find news because um a lot of these things just have it right in the title so even even with this I just I skipped this one article and then I went into a different article but the James gone he needs to stop and I’ve I’ve said this before just stop answering people man just don’t do it because if you answer you’re somewhat confirming but there’s about six thing there was one I think the one article said it was either six or eight he

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addresses six to eight rumors I know about one of them which was about and the only one won’t it’s not really a spoiler because he didn’t answer it but he did not answer it it was about k then Johnny rumored to be Booster Gold he went around it didn’t answer it but that everything else he kind of straight shot down which was like the only which he said someone said someone else is doing the Brave and the Bold and not Andy machete and he’s like that’s not true so I guess that’s okay but a couple things

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I thought were almost confirming things and I’m like by you not confirming and I know there was some set leagues and don’t look at anything if you can for superman but I know a set leag thing I know it and I’m like don’t why do I crap like you know like there was a set League thing that came out and it was on like a little story in the in the YouTube at the bottom and I see someone behind Superman I’m like no no no no no no no like and I’m like so I don’t know what to do so I yeah but he answers

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everything and then and I feel like I hope he can control the trailer like I hope like in his contract he has final stay over the trailer I think so remember the trailer for uh the second Kingsman movie in the trailer they reveal that uh the main guy was still alive the one that got killed they bring him back and they put that in the trailer yeah right right right and and Matthew vaugh was like why the hell would you put that in a trailer and I’m like Matthew W doesn’t have say over his

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own trailer yeah I would think that he has his contract down you know but I guess sure I’m sure he does now like after that like what a horrible like I hate I hate a poorly made trailer and I hate reveals like I really want to right be surprised in a movie theater I want to be surprised reading a comic and I I’ve actually avoided the James gun stuff you know just go win an Oscar because I know B ho has like uh has Final Cut on the 14 the new robat bat and bat movie he’s got like the 14

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what’s his name so like he’s got Final Cut of that got win an Oscar to get Final Cut I guess and Final Cut of trailer so he Final Cut a trailer as well yeah you know but I I can’t imagine that movie but that’s what I feel like that’s a paycheck movie because parasite cost what 10 million made 200 300 million then hea was given probably one to 200 million to make the new Rob well actually I want to say bongino is very because he started very minimal I would imagine he’s turning stuff

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in um did you ever see oaka that was on Netflix you ever watch that no it’s a diff it’s a tough watch because like literally it’s about that it’s in the future and there is there’s no meat so they create these um these super pigs and then they kill them and then they and then they we all eat the pigs basically but then there was one that was raised by and like hurted by like a family and then they’re like well let’s try to save it and it’s insane and it’s and it’s great and Paul Danos in it is

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crazy what Joan Hall’s in it it’s on Netflix I think Netflix owns it um you read are you reading epth from the abyss or all those Anthology um I think I I kind of skim I know lap I read the lapum one because lapam has one that that I I look at that you know I read the Riley Ross I think it was Riley Rosso one somebody drew a story and it was like a same future where everyone’s eating this meat but he the meat is humans but they just rais humans on like a farm and they’re just serve man it’s old they’re

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not they raise them like animals no humans humans are raising humans they like oh these we eat humans oh W I guess they just raise them in a way where they’re not conscious of their thoughts it’s a very weird thing and and like he’s like and Oh Betsy you know he’s talk like this it’s kind of like a a hottish girl Betsy and then they they just kill her to eat her you know but it’s totally accepted because I guess somehow we raise these humans without human brains so they’re just they’re

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just animals but they’re all good-looking people but they’re all crawling around on forward legs and I’m like this is a really weird story this is hit weirder like yeah I don’t want this world I don’t want to see more stories in this world because it’s would just be dark it’s like too dark to comprehend like a really like well that I guess they’re doing a good job because that’s the EC Comics Revival right that’s part of that so it’s like it’s like we we the

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whole point of those books for Mo for the most part is like yeah I I don’t want to hang out here can we move on to a different story like all them were very uncomfortable all of them cancelled a very a giant portion of comic books and comic book publishing because we’re all like murder your husband and the you know the heading of the white like it’s a lot of heavy heavy stuff so I guess they’re doing the right sphere of that yeah you know who I wish would do e stories would be uh and obviously I’d

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rather him do any comic at all please would be Alan Moore because he did that one issue of supreme where each story was a different style of EC comic like horror comic the and then but they and they did a Mad Comic too but his horror comic and his crime Comics were really good I I think that issue of supreme actually won a an Eisner because it was who drew the stuff in that was that just Rick B different styles Rick Beach through through the EC stuff I think Bill Ray Inked some of it which is you

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know Ray phenomenal inkor worked for I mean I I discovered him in crack magazine but he Inked Bernie wron on the Colt you know yeah well he colored and then he colored uh puncher POV the CT to we figured out recently which was a failed the cult makes tons of money and then he’s like I got this story where there’s a bunch of sewer stuff and it’s gross and Bernie rice is going to draw it and we’ll keep do keep going and they’re just like no it’s okay hey Marvel I want to do the story like and just make it

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the Punisher I had say no to the cult part two it’s like turning down Frank Miller returns like that was the year of Batman like the cult The Killing Joke Dark Knight Returns like everything that we got right before and around the movie was just like money it was just money for DC and we loved all of it yeah that’s okay that’s a great Punisher story so um so yeah so in in the in the fact that we try to stay away from stuff so just so so James gun and the only reason I mentioned this is because this was a one

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title and I wanted to see what he said so someone on threads and this is what I dislike about this is he responded this isn’t something that got a lot of traction so someone said and I can’t find the original threads I think it’s gone now I think it’s deleted but someone wrote and this was the bottom of this post the the someone was commenting on creators not being paid which we talked about pretty much I think every show yeah uh that things are going into other mediums are not getting paid okay

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so this person says and I don’t know who this is uh because again it was cropped and I believe that post was deleted but it had three hearts which I guess is you know three likes and then two comments but I and then they have a repost thingy but I don’t think it was ever reposted so it’s not as if this thing got millions of track it didn’t get a lot of traction and then James gun who has I don’t know how many threads followers he has or whatever I’m not sure if he has X anymore I think

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he might just have threats so it’s um it says the originate comic book authors Who characters form the basis of the stories the origin comic book authors whose characters form the basis of the stories the artists who created the original visuals that are turned into movies they wrote Stanley died a popper it’s not fair that the creators don’t even know their characters are being used until they see it in headlines let some uh and let some feed anding money off again this it it there’s a bunch of

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gramat grammatical errors why are you responding to this why are you responding to this right let me see if I can until they see it on headlines let some feat any money off it so it’s not even written I don’t even know what that I don’t even was trying to say let alone let some feel let alone gain any money anyway so then James gone has to respond right both DC and Marvel compensate comic book writers for their Creations I’ve created I’ve created personal relationships with many if not

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most of the writers who have created characters who I’ve gratefully put into film Stanley was my friend I loved him and he did not die a poer now I I listen Stanley didn’t have the best ending of his life as as chronicled by Tom shi’s book which I think is probably the most accurate right of especially that first page which becomes really sad starts sad ends sad he’s being handled he doesn’t have his all his mental facilities he’s being handled by people to just blindly sign

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stuff he can barely form a sentence and he’s just signing away man that’s not what you want at the end of your life so if he had money in the bank did he have money in the bank we don’t really know I don’t this this this gives me more questions and I don’t think you’re Stanley’s friend I think Kevin Smith was Stanley’s friend I feel like he was with him much much more than this you were on sets with him sure but Stanley has less to do with what you did in Guardians of

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the Galaxy than Jim Starin talk about Jim Starin more give Jim Starin more we know that Jim St got what paid 10 grand and got sent to a couple shows got it sent to a couple premieres what but he do like that’s not a lot of money for the billions multi-billions of dollars that Marvel made so my biggest thing is if something gets three hearts written wrong and two comments just don’t say anything James just don’t say anything I know I’m saying something right I’m telling you and again that’s I’m telling

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this guy don’t share your opinion as I’m sharing my opinion I understand how hypocritical that is but at the same point you’re not you’re not hering have no power to give anyone money James gun would have power to give creators money do we know that when him at DC is doing anything different if he’s the James if he’s the Kevin fige of that do we know anything what he’s given Jim he gave what John asander like a brain gun in a movie for two minutes does he get out sag rights

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does he get insurance I don’t know what he did probably you didn’t Brewbaker say he’s made more off of his Cameo and Winter Soldier than actually off of creating Winter Soldier yeah so Hollywood pays better than Marvel DC so it’s almost better to not that every Creator wants to be on screen but you got you should put something in the movie that gets them paid I don’t know if it’s a weird semi- producing credit or a you know what I mean like who who created the new uh Mr terrific I believe I think it was John

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asand John John asander and uh and Tom Andre Spector yeah Spector series they should get they should get something for that who created the original you know what I mean like is there a family member that created the original from the Golden Age oh man yeah I don’t know gosh that that would be hard to you know who created Hulk girl Berard Bailey it would be like it would be someone like that it would be someone so far back because the original there is a Bailey estate right yeah there’s got to be a Jerry Robinson

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estate there’s go to like is he getting paid for a joker this but who drew that because that’s not man Drake’s costume the costume that he got the costume that became that I don’t know I don’t think it’s Alex Ross Alex Ross has a great version of it I don’t know if it’s St Sadowski I don’t know who created that or yeah yeah it might be Michael bear or stepen Sadowski right so it might be those guys who popularized him inside of JSA establishing him the right way Jeff

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Johns James Robinson establishing him as a brain and uh and goyer right goyer was on there forget that Jeff Dons Didn’t Start The Justice Society comic he didn’t come into later oh yeah that’s people just people just we we all kind of fakely remember oh yeah it’s always been a Jeff Dons comic it’s like no right it was a Robinson goyer correct yeah so that’s right yeah and that was a starm spoff like you know like it was uh and became more popular than star man which is fine you know what I mean

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because the concepts were good and then they just grew and they got bigger and then Jeff John’s took the history and that’s how Jeff John’s like just was got better and created more so yeah so yeah my I guess just my my biggest my biggest blah was just the fact that I just I don’t want just stop talking about it unless you Havey unless you unless you want to put some numbers if you want to talk about it throw me a couple numbers say like I I have this or like you said if he has the power to do it give me

00:52:12
give us a president okay the new president DC is this John Ostrander you created Miss Tri like just give us something you’re an associate listen how many title cards are there right have an associate producer that’s where that’s where we used to see AIA rods where we used to see Stan Ley right right it was be fourth or fifth credit we don’t know what that meant most of them said doesn’t mean anything doesn’t mean but it would mean that you would get X of the of the math well the Math’s all

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funny now the Math’s all fuzzy because of account a lot of it’s a lot of so that’s no good yeah it used to be good used to be a cut used to be something now it’s no good you know um you know who who cre who created metamorpho was that a Ramona fren did she was she the first yeah Ramona fren and probably Bob Haney probably yeah both passed I mean she just right yeah last year yep I hope that like that metamorpho money you know goes to somewhat yeah guy Garner go to Joe ston Joe ston just passed you know

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what I mean Joe ston EST State who did more for that character Joe ston Steve engart anyone do it more for that character absolutely not you know what I mean absolutely not so anyway so let’s keep going so onto onto bigger and happier things Greg hilderbrand died 85 soar um yeah we we as comic fans in the 90s uh discovered him doing the Marvel Masterpiece card series following Joe jusos and we really like I loved it I didn’t love it as much as J Go’s initially but then we discovered his

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fantasy work of the 70s which just amazed us well the Star Wars poster that my favorite my favorite like burned into my brain Star Wars poster the long the the widescreen one with him standing like this that’s the most famous poster I think that’s them that’s the older band brothers and and again Lord of the Rings we we became backwards fans of that stuff right right so and then they’re like the Rings movies you know coming coming into Comics we become backwards fans you know your first Amazing Spider-Man may be

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drawn by McFarlan will let me go by old McFarlan and old Spider-Man’s and then you buy old McFarlan Hulks and then you buy old hulks hulks you know you infinity Incorporated bring it back to the you’re right we go back and buy Allstar Squadron 47 you know with Dr Fate on the cover because we wanted every McFarland comic and like BR what did we get we got the Lord of the Rings prin sets they were beautiful you got c yeah you saw did I tell I talked about this thing earlier in the week like and did you ever see them did

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you ever see a painting in real person in in in real life any of their paintings yes because I think one of them was at well hey Greg was at New York I think last year the year before might have been that I might with you and either saw that the way that’s lit I mean that’s like I know Thomas K my dad’s a big fan has some of his you know printed work but like the lighting of that the gold of that like that was imp it’s impactful period seeing it in real life you’re just kind of like like you

00:55:13
just kind of stand and look at it go you know were those paintings scanned or were they was a picture taken of them to be printed I don’t know how old printing works but whenever you see original art especially a painted original art it looks incredible I’ve seen the Joe jusco Spider-Man from Marvel masterpieces at a convention years ago and I’m like this okay this looks amazing the colors everything’s so sharp you’re right the lighting everything looks and I love the that card series I love both card series

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but like to see the the bigger size if you ever watch lield on his whatnot show he’s got the justco cable hanging behind her from the Marvel where he’s like kind of jump like kind of jump like walking almost like Mountain walking yeah like he own the res to that burn my bur I didn’t mean to turn this into a Jo jusco conversation but I was selling a Hol coaster which I accidentally listed as Joe jusco and Joe jusco emails me he’s like hey that’s not me that’s Bob Lin I’m like I’m a thanks Joe and by

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the way you’re awesome right you know yeah I like it when yeah when they when they actually know you know what I mean that’s interesting wow yeah and I’m like ah how I miss that but it was just a funny thing like it it’s funny when you ever sell anything on eBay to anyone famous you’re like oh here’s no the only thing that I know that I got well I I got that alessie uhh reprint of the of the Silver Surfer like 90s trade of the Kirby that was like stamp that it had was from like the Alesia estate from The

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Mark alesi allesia estate I’m like okay you know what I mean I’m like that’s awesome yeah Mar God everyone’s everyone’s dead I sold first I think the first person I sold to was like Walden Wong for the 90s I’m like well then Wong that’s awesome and then I sold a a Jim Jim Krueger did this book called The Alphabet soups where every superhero had a different letter and they Powers associated with a letter and I end up selling that to the artist Anthony castrello formerly known

00:57:11
as Mac he’s a burn clone did a couple issues Y and then I sold Stephen seagull his own book it’s a bird it’s a plane because I had a sealed copy I was selling and he’s like oh wow bought it I’m like dude I just would like these people buy stuff from you and you’re like I would just giving it to you like I enjoy your work and he’s like that’s not he goes I don’t think that’s fair like you bought it now I’m buying it yeah and even nicer yeah the person who’s bought the most from me is Robert

00:57:38
Kirkman because I had a bunch of extreme image stuff and he just kept buying it I’m like there’s Kirkman just always buying stuff from me that’s so crazy yeah your buddy um he’s he’s a nice guy I I don’t you know I don’t have to do business with him so as a fan talking to him right right as fellow Street in New York you know two weeks ago so um yeah but they did do some sequential because they did do that Xmen 2099 like one shot they had a presti format one shot the sequential were better than they should

00:58:08
have been you know they were pretty solid you know how about how about Ash number five oh yeah I forgot about that they co- drew it with J they brought in a character called The Covenant and they I forgot about that he painted everything he did and then Casada Drew all his Ash stuff and there was a there was a hildbrand Brothers cover and then just a cassada cover but yeah that was a really brothers I gotta add that in my in my master list yeah not yet I’m still only in like D I think U yeah that we’ll talk about that later

00:58:39
oh my gosh as number five def definitely a book you know it’s a dollar bin book but if you can find it that’s the thing you find that run you can find pretty much that run zero to six like you can find you can pretty much find that in dollar bins great Productions they’re fantastic Productions they did a really good job I mean Ash came very close to being an image comic like he went to image and image like yeah we’ll print it no problem and then cada’s like well can I be a partner and they’re like

00:59:06
no right which rightfully so they’ve already been established yeah he’s bringing a cool character and you know today yeah I guess they were trying to give him basically what like a like a Sam Keef uh Sam ke D Keon deal like you no you’re free to make a ton of money like and you will but you know and I don’t know what partner like he had that itch to be something more than just an artist which is enough most people but he’s not he’s not retired but we but he is basically in the middle of the

00:59:36
country and doing his own book you know like he’s like I’m out I’m out of New York City I’m gonna go to Indiana or whatever the heck he is he’s gonna do his own book through lion Forge or whatever right like so or mad cave rather um okay good yeah but you’re right if he didn’t have that itch and didn’t say no then right you know he might not have got to do the Marvel KN stuff he wouldn’t have been editor-in-chief and probably secured his I imagine he secured his retirement imagine right

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around that time I’m sure he’s fine yeah he’s not going to die a poer no no so um have you seen all the Halloween stuff it’s Halloween last week I have daughters who who won what did they I don’t know my kids just dressed up as I think just random stuff but like what what did your did you have anything specific did they do anything specific they they had like two costumes cuz you know they they have a party costume and then a Halloween costume Halloween night costume and a party costume um they were

01:00:35
both Freddy Kruegers at one point and uh I happen to have an old Indiana Jones hat which I don’t know how I acquired it but I love it you know I was Indiana Jones when I was 13 year the Last Crusade came out and I I borrowed from my cousin an actual bull whip and I was just there like slapping it slapping it and I went to a party in West and I was slapping that Whip and I I marked some some girls basement ceiling and the parents were like oh can we hold on to this whip until the end of the party awesome we look knock over or

01:01:09
hurt somebody you know what I mean the real bull whip probably be something yeah yeah but you know what when you don’t give a 13-year-old a real bullet but it was awesome yeah that’s awesome I know yeah so online I I saw one this morning that I added to I’m not sure if you saw that but I saw so early in the week Megan the stallion was uh Starfire and I think she had think she had a real wig and then they did like a digital additional wig which was pretty incredible and they put it they ped it

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onto like one of the covers they put it into like I think it was the the Teen Titan Spotlight like uh so that was pretty amazing and so they had a couple a couple of them that they they doctored but I really think it’s interesting that like there’s not just one picture anymore we used to be like um this person that’s it one picture now there’s like six and now they’re all of them are really good and well done and like and like digitally made and like you know their eyes were done in one of them um

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but then the Beyonce I don’t think I put that in the chat did you see happen to see that one the Beyonce one yeah yeah oh my God but there was like seven of them she did the um she did the 1999 cover where she like the interior like cover like very deep dive stuff uh they did she did the like the the lighting for like the vanity she was abalonia but did the liting of Vanity 6 and she had one aalon aalon 6 and I’m like so she did like seven photos would explain who apalon is just in case people aren’t oh

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yeah abalon is in uh prop rain um vanity was supposed to be in prop rain but they but her and Prince were dating and then fighting and then so he kicked her out so literally they just re-recorded the songs that were recorded as Vanity 6 songs as abalonia 6 in the movie so not great that’s a early Prince not great move not not nice um because some of them were probably co-written by uh B but you know again we will probably never get that Prince documentary because there some bad early Prince uh

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dealings one actually created actually like Janet Jackson’s career because Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were doing something on the side they were producing stuff for The Gap Band and then they got caught because Prince says you’re not allowed to produce anything none of you there was like eight people in the time and they’re like if anyone if I catch anyone doing anything thing you’re fired so he fired them and they’re like okay well then they go do if you listen to it listen to control

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control ironically is uh a Time album sort of like there’s there’s there are certain elements that are Minneapolis sound because Jan Jackson didn’t want to sound like the Jacksons right that created her whole thing was it coming out of but it was because Prince was a dick yeah well it’s hard you know Way to the Top you got to be a dick you know even people Love sometimes are dicks to get to where they need to be it’s it’s weird to imagine it I don’t like the idea of stepping on people’s throats to climb a

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little higher that’s why we’re not rich you know not that’s right that’s right that’s okay I sleep at night um uh and then Charlie Cox the one I saw this morning on on uh it was Charlie Cox was Loki next to a daredevil and it wasn’t until like the third picture swipe that Tom hson was was uh was Daredevil I didn’t see I don’t know if that was pretty awesome so that was pretty cool um yeah so next story here is oh I didn’t finish so and then for actual hallowe my daughters one like I

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said one end up being Fred Krueger and the other one end up being a Harley Quinn and her and her good like Joker like girl joker I’m like yeah that’s it’s popular this year like they thought of it on their own but then it ended up being just in the Zeitgeist well there’s probably a lot of uh there’s probably a lot of well there’s there’s there’s so many good different versions of that too so through yeah you know so you can kind of either do like just a just a ground

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level one you could do one of the multiple movie ones you can do original one harlene sorin one like there’s a ton of them you could do so what was your uh I saw you post something about Quinton Tarantino love Joker to oh man I put I put it in the chat it’s it’s a 20 minute clip of a of a podcast of Brett e East Ellis who wrote um American Psycho and wrote um Less Than Zero uh long almost like he’s almost like an essayist right so his I would barely call bretney snells novelist if you ever

01:05:32
read any of his books they’re they’re barely even American Psycho is very disperate it’s like here’s two chapters about huie Lewis in the news right right like and then so they be like that’s not the form of his novels are just loose loose loose loose loose loose and so he has a podcast now he wasie and Tarantino has just been on last two years I feel like he’s just completely off his rocker as far as like he’s so self-important and I just think it’s so crap so he just literally say oh

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I saw Joker too and I loved it right and this I feel like is is is an altour type of thing if you see a different altour thinking that like it’s gonna like you just automatically just give it a pass you’re giving you’re giving uh michalopoulos a pass before you see it and then you see it and you’re like I can’t finish I can’t finish it I can’t finish it I cannot finish it and it’s weird because like my opinion of of Copa has always been relatively High except for

01:06:31
this week did you see Pacino on Conan O’Brien yes yeah I did so so Pacino gets and and listen it’s got to be really difficult and I also I find it really fascinating that bino is literally walking three miles a day that’s far where he was saying he was going from like 90 for like he’s walking to try and just stay out of the studio area cuz in Studio area he has literally like producers like laughing at him acting saying like we’re going to have to replace him like hearing whispers

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through the entire time and then you know and then Copa calls him brings them in to a restaurant where there’s tons of food and this is after he’s he’s walked forever he’s walked four or five miles that day and he’s super poor exactly and then so there’s tons of food not Copa and all the family a billion people at the table and he tells him he’s like you’re not cutting it and he’s just like I’m working as hard as I can and he’s like this is what he’s like what do you want me to do and

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he’s like all right well we’ll need to do this and he starts talking to me he’s like can I have some of your burger and then I think he just starts eating the burger when I’m like good for you like you know what I mean like God damn it but like can you imagine how difficult that must to have been first off he fought for him and then he doesn’t back his guy which I dislike I always hate that I think that’s no good I think that’s no good I I like the stories where they champion up and then they

01:07:56
just literally hold it there can be no one else this is that I got to go with this guy and it and it doesn’t appear to be like a move to make him be better sometimes directors like are just super hard to make someone better you know Al hcock is horrible at it Stanley cubrick terrible people right directors but they end up getting what they want right right this doesn’t seem to be that move you know no no so I so Tarantino goes and also like a couple years ago if you remember there was a couple leaks

01:08:26
someone I think someone leaked the footage of him telling uh um Thurman to drive this Jeep into like a tree basically right and then they leak the footage they’re like this is not good behavior but he wants to shot and he is endangering his actor no good but he got she she did not know how to drive that’s that’s what you not in the fashion that was was being required of her and but it wasn’t fast enough and it just sounds so horrible and dangerous and ridiculous anyway so he’s talking about Joker to he

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said I like all the musical sequences which in my opinion are the worst and also you saw the clip I might even send it to the group where like where where she’s singing at the end of the movie and he’s like please stop talk just talk he’s trying to shut her up and they’re like this is how I felt the whole movie and I’m like I agree with you where where gu Fenix is trying to silence Lady Gaga from singing as as Lee he’s like please stop just tell me what you want me to tell me don’t sing it and I’m like

01:09:24
that’s how I felt the whole movie he says I like all the things and then he said and and maybe I’m wrong at this and and that’s okay but his opinion was basically this is basically a better version of a movie that I wrote that was taken away from me in Oliver Stone amazingly we’re you know Oliver Stone again like and he’s saiding that that not it’s almost like a Mickey and mallerie movie blah blah blah and I’m like what are you talking about like that’s not what I saw and you just like

01:09:51
just transposed what you thought should have been that movie because you didn’t like the way ol Stone did that movie what are you talking about like I just like I didn’t see that at all it was I’m swear to God on this thing I said I was two minutes and I like I was I was at breakfast I’m just like I’m throwing my phone across did you ever see Donald Tarantino on SNL he’s got the fake chin he’s like hey everyone here’s what I was thinking with P fiction and it’s first off don’t do

01:10:21
Impressions that often so then he’s doing this impression qu down it’s like they’re they were doing that like if other people tried out for p fiction and you got you know okay it’s it’s it’s a pretty funny bit hopefully it’s available but just Donald pretty tough pretty tough a lot of that early early stuff man we can’t find a lot of stuff there’s peacock but there’s a lot of stuff that is not up not a lot of stuff censor it’s not up there’s a lot of

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stuff that’s not up so yeah we’ll have to you know what well we’ll have to go on the high seas I’ll go thr on the high seas because you know what should just be available if I’m paying whatever amount $14.99 whatever the heck I pay peacock I don’t know um I feel like I should just have access to my 50 seasons of uh of sant live no like I don’t know like what’s the difference you can put up a a thing if you want this is culturally insensitive blah blah blah sure why not okay I’ll read that I I’ll

01:11:10
get it that it’s 1977 I got it you know I got it smart enough big boy you know what I mean you can throw that up if you want no problem that’s what I do a lot of Disney stuff Disney stuff is on Disney stuff is on stuff that’s racially insensitive they throw it up but they’ll post it most of them most of the stuff Warner Brothers a little more paranoid with that they they take a bunch of bunch of stuff going on from that and there’s ton of archives Warner Brothers just sucks at they just don’t want to

01:11:34
believe that anything is there you know I mean that like okay we got it it was World War II you made this cartoon got it sure you know what I mean got it so uh okay so let’s see what else I’m sorry I’m very I saw water Brothers wants to make a Game of Thrones movie like an actual movie in the theater and I’m like why your TV show is where it’s at your TV show is what really brings in your people do you think a movie trying to do it I don’t know like they’re trying to like I don’t want that

01:11:59
grou movie I don’t want that in theaters I don’t care I don’t want it I’m GNA say it do you see that it’s done that they filmed it no yeah I didn’t even know they were filming it I mean I I guess I just s of assumed and like oh yeah I think I think production’s done on it well I mean you know you got you can throw Pedro Pascal in the closet he he wasn’t on set at all for season three at all zero it’s John Wayne’s kid as stunt man all he does is fall over stuff anyway you know the

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third season to me I think it was the third maybe the third episode is that um what’s her name Boke katan’s great at everything and then and and um you know mandor just Falls over everything you know like they’re really run down the hallway he’s tripping over everything you can’t see and then you just have baton flying over top she’s doing great it just I third season no good so anyway uh all right so another thing I have a problem with I’m trying and and then I’m

01:12:55
end the news would like a really exciting happy thing for me okay so but I have one more problem all right right abam Comics Arts which we understand are just doing these different additions of things again I don’t understand Marvel I like you said before Marvel just makes more money by licensing things out so they’re doing a reprint of the ARs of Marvel Comics which was through Fireside originally and has a very famous jorita senior cover where it’s a typewriter it says origin of Marvel comic Marvel

01:13:22
Comics by Stanley and has Stanley’s hands right so they do a new SE new version of that just came out this week Alex R does a no cover does exactly the same poses got it same hands got it Alex Ross you think they’re Alex Ross’s hands now I don’t know oh maybe yeah because he has the foot everything but then he would have had stunt hands because guess what they added two extra hands and I don’t know if I agree with this as much as I like like the pottery scene in that ghost like it’s just extra yeah there’s

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two extra hands right it’s like it’s uh I don’t know it’s almost feel like there’s like there’s a s Live sketch where there’s extra hands like there’s just a lot of stuff right just feeding them like yeah just no good um but they added a Steve dico Hand like near a doctor strange drawing and then they added um a Jack Kirby hand near a Thor and I just don’t was it holding a cigar no but I just don’t know do that anymore and then then and I guess they try to justify

01:14:27
because then they have like six extra essays so you have the initial Stanley retro continuity 1970s brain Stanley’s like I did this and my wife said this and I did this and he doesn’t really say anything about the the the authors I know that I got it I got it there’s also in my on my Instagram I should try to maybe I should repost it um wait isn’t there a special edition and a regular edition uh do you mean of the reprint or the the fire side the Fireside stuff I don’t know there might have been a

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second edition the guy heralding it this new project through Abrams I think was doing like a special limited edition you know extra stuff well Scott dumer I think he has an interview with one of the people who worked at Fireside so they try to justify by having a lot of stuff extra stuff in it there’s Tom reort essay there’s a bunch of extra essays in it and then they have something about fires side they’ve interview with Larry leers 93 you know like so it’s like I just don’t know I

01:15:24
just don’t I don’t know like I mean seriously so if you put this book out who’s making money on are you giving any rights to anything like again it goes back to one of my earlier stories if who’s who’s buying this right who’s it selling to is there any royalties in this thing is it anything going back to Kirby State anything go back to ditco estate is there a ditco estate is there anyone alive like is Bill Finger estate not really like you know what I mean like you’re printing

01:15:49
stuff you know we watch penguin every week you got Bill finger’s name up there is anything happening there he’s got an estate his uh I think he had a daughter yeah I think I think after that movie the the bill the Batman and me like that I think rest strengthened some of that stuff that’s good I just don’t know if I need this like retro continuity thing you know I feel like I don’t really need and and and listen if Abrams comic has some Fireside stuff fine print the like Silver

01:16:22
Surfer but give me a Silver Surfer Jack Kirby why isn’t it there I understand like because look it’s not it’s not gonna be in the epics epics are laid out they’re not the epics are laid out that book is not going to be in an epic collection zero it can’t fit anywhere it’s already printed where things can fall it can’t be any anywhere it can’t be by itself the Mobius story is inside one of the Epic collections that’s in there this book cannot be anywhere are you talking

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continuity wise or I’m talking the Fireside comic book is its own thing it’s Kirby’s version of Silver Surfer and then Stanley scripted it that’s how it is a great fact and a fact um and also there’s two different intros which I have pictures of I should I should put this back up I should go back and figure out where the heck it is in my archive and post it or put or pin it but um yeah there’s two different intros there’s the 90s intro the maresi version of of my silver server there’s a

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different intro there for from the 90s 98 99 than there was in the 77 Fireside book which which is like it’s less Kirby Centric in the second one a little more in the first either way I I I understand I don’t know I I I don’t know if this Abrams thing should be the way that it is again I’m not buying it doesn’t really matter but I don’t I’m not great with new names but so the guy at Abrams who’s heralding this I think had spent time at either Marvel or DC so he’s very Pro Comics and that and Abrams

01:17:59
is allowing this to to have his own little section of books and I almost wonder if they’re getting paid better than having an actual Marvel comic like is are they getting paid through Abrams or are they getting because benis is doing stuff for him yeah right right right yeah we don’t know yeah right exactly but that’s not it’s not a Marvel property it’s it’s Ben’s own property right um and he has three books with with Walter Gabriel Walter yeah Gabriel randz Walter but I don’t know yeah I’ve

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never seen that I don’t even see them in stores I’m not really sure their distribution model they are doing a special edition version and it’s like $65 they’re doing a uh Fantastic 4 full circle Expanded Edition with a slightly different cover looks more like the um the blacklight cover it’s a different cover same cover but just like the just like you know uh change change colors it would fit under black light extra like 80 pages so it’s like like and I have it and I like it maybe I would sell it and

01:18:56
get the new one I have to see I have to see if it’s on the sale or whatever but I’m I need to buy that other Alex Ross book anyway I need to go on Alex ross.com and then look for that other book because I want that his 70s book I want his like missing projects book is what I think it was called something like that um so I don’t know how do you feel about those extra hands are you okay with extra hands being on this book that’s I think I think the extra hands I’m okay with it because I think they’re also

01:19:21
doing just a straight reprint too I think the version you’re talking about think you’re right think there’s extra stuff in the back right yes um it’s true Stanley did not create the Marvel Universe by itself but do do we need to hammer down on it that’s a good question like do we need to be constantly hit like I I met a kid one time who had a Deadpool tattoo on his leg I’m like oh that’s an awesome Deadpool tattoo I said you know I’m a little bit friendly with the Creator

01:19:49
he’s oh you know Stan leye I’m like Stanley did not create Deadpool like at all at all but like that’s the that’s the myth that’s what’s out there people probably think he created Superman and Batman they’re just not informed and that’s fine don’t have to be informed that’s our job we I like to inform people Marvel doesn’t even know because there’s a Captain America the end book that dark Larson drew that I have right over there right what does it say who

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created Captain America I think it says Stan Lee it doesn’t even say Jack Kirby I think it says created by Stan Lee I think this is Le kiry I think I don’t know maybe I’ll pull it I don’t know but I don’t know anyway um but that book’s newish like that’s like so even Marvel editorial doesn’t even know that like you don’t even know that this book got to press I have it over there terrible cover on that one thing too bad cover Larson cover Larson cover is the variant

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it’s like one and 10 I don’t even know you hire ER Larson to do this book let him do the cover that’s to sell I didn’t even know there was a very I should probably find it I’ll go buy that and that’s painted cover yeah I’ve always that’s always been my deal like who if if I enjoy the interior artist I want their cover Amazing Spider-Man kept doing that with Ed mcginness when he was drawing Amazing Spider-Man he still is right he’s like here’s a mcginness issue

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and a cover by someone else but mcginness will be the B cover like what what he’s drawing the issue and he’s then yeah have the jrjr be the be cover I didn’t like that the new Daredevil Run for the most part as jrjr covers jrjr has drawn Daredevil since like 92 and I understand he does it’s some good art sure but it’s never it doesn’t feel the tone of and again they’re just like that there’s nothing to do with the inside of that book zero you have Aaron cter is very strong and his his a very

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strong artist he was like the fifth cover of number one it was like the fifth or sixth cover which was a much and then he did a second print with the cter cover I’m like just why wasn’t this diverse brand if I you know it’s obviously not a timing thing and and artists get paid more for a cover and covers are fun yeah well you can just do I don’t know yeah so that’s a bummer but all right know I’ve been okay so I’m not even really going to apologize for my I know we’re trying to be very Pro Comics

01:21:59
here I’m more I’m more procreator in this so even though I’m a little testy it’s more about I just want if if if there’s so much money being made I just would like money being put down to the you know given to the creators in some fashion or some model don’t defend the model don’t tell me Stanley died and not a popper okay he didn’t retire early I don’t know how much of the end of his life he enjoyed you know while there’s just just there’s literally don’t look

01:22:26
it up if you if you don’t believe me you can he made most of his money off signings not not the stuff he created he had to sue Marvel to get a cut like what’s what sucks more than having to sue the company you spent your life working for if it wasn’t for Neil Adams and Neil Adams basically fought for the rights of the Superman creators that was the only way they got money in the 70s the only way that movie came out and they felt okay with it um because they could have e and that was basically like

01:22:53
a pre PR move that they had to be arranged before the movie came out or guess what would have ran Superman number one in the theaters and then a great be story would have been like but the creators are bro like they he fixed it before it happened the artist is is legally blind and you know he was delivering for you ever hear the story where he was delivering for a just a local delivery company not like a UPS post office or like a post off like a around New York City and he had to deliver to DC and it was like the middle

01:23:21
winner and the guy who basically fired him was like here here’s like an extra 20 bucks and a jacket like he was delivering without a jacket in a New York winter there’s a jacket and can you imagine like you have to go deliver to the place that stole your idea I know they they sold it for 130 bucks or something which in right right right that which in that time is probably worth about five grand today you know it’s still ridiculous like I know it’s unprecedented it’s just it’s

01:23:48
it’s it’s really it’s really rough like even right now like I mean we talked about at the beginning with Larry Hammer situation is Larry Hammer there’s no pension there’s nothing lined up for that stuff so he is basically like getting probably a lot of money from the different Kickstarter things that skybound created oh for the compendiums which are gorgeous looking and the look they’re just doing as much as they possibly can and the fans are going to want to pay him you know like

01:24:18
listen I I wish I went to New York because I wish I would have tracked down that hands of the Dragon reprint and would have met like ah this is my ex that was kind like this is my thing here yes thank you and also thank you for the other stuff but thank you this is awesome like I just like that there’s there’s a little bit of extra Larry Hamill of right now you know and I think was it was it on was it on live I think you were gonna tell me tell a story that I think I want you want to say go ahead

01:24:40
yeah life even reached out to him for Snake Eyes number five he had this genius idea to get every page Inked by inkers that he loved I think not only did Hama ink a page inside but a variant cover was a pencil by Hama that life right you yeah and had to get cut for that there was some I’m trying to think what Creator was I don’t remember the story but it was one of the millions of podcasts we listen to but someone said that hammer was the hardest editor he’s ever had but also mentioned that he made

01:25:12
me better yeah he made me he demanded this he was very difficult he was milit like it was very militant in the way he was delivering things however I’m the artist I am today because of that like you know what I mean so there’s the tough love almost the antiopa love you know I mean like a different type of yeah creative love correct and I love that Hama was on episodes of mash like as an I don’t if I know that I like an extra on Mash I don’t know how much he did you know obviously Mash was like the number one

01:25:41
show of the 80s and 70s or whatever but yeah gets better you know that’s so probably so funny if he has any type of sag royalty might get even get what’s the name um the the director of the movie Robert Alman he says he gets more money from the song from the theme than like I think different direct movie I think his son wrote the lyrics to the Mash song Go what’s it called suicide there’s yeah there’s actual lyrics to the song but they only do the they don’t even but he probably

01:26:12
publishing right prob something I think has made more money than Alman did making the movie Flash a a mash my gosh that’s czy right you know there’s more money in Hollywood but it’s justce weird it’s just you know you get this you get that you know yeah yeah what that Growing Pains who was the D on Growing Pains Alan Thick used to write theme songs and he made more money off of old theme songs for TV shows than almost anything thicker than they used to have to pay you every week that show aired

01:26:42
they’d have to pay you again for that song yeah there’s something similar now I believe with the directors where directors will direct the first episode and then they they kind of get like a here’s the template for it right potential I think Drew G was first I think on that yeah you know and I think what was who was house was that uh was that singer Brian Singer he directed house the first one something that we don’t talk about singer any we talk about him yeah yeah we’ll talk about

01:27:12
that sry I was watching watching shrinking and uh Zack brth directed the episode yeah yep a look at that I know 21 year yeah there’s he has a couple interviews he was on um was he on Rosen bomb or something he’s been on a few interviews recently that have been you know and he apparently has a really good working relationship um because they were even ask I think I forget who if it was Ros like how how are you interviewing how how do you how do you work with like Morgan Freeman multiple times like how

01:27:41
does that happen you know and he’s like because they like they like people working they don’t like they like productive sets they don’t like uh cater being catered to they want to go to the set and they want to get the work done and they want to see organization and he says he’s I’m probably not the best director but I’m really organized and I’m really like I just I do the things you know that that’s half the job yeah you can be organized and very rarely are the two in twined and then when he wrote

01:28:11
which I haven’t seen it because I think it’s supposed to be super depressing the the good a good person um but he gave him the script he’s like you don’t have to do like I I’m just I’d be curious if you would do this I I kind of wrote this with you in mind but like you don’t have to don’t don’t be in this like he was kind of telling like don’t do this and then he read it he’s like she okay he’s like I’m in or texted him so I’m like I like oh my gosh like so yeah kind of got him

01:28:33
yeah I think the same thing with um because I asked him how how are you dealing with uh Harrison Ford same thing apparently Harrison Ford doing the best acting of his life in that show I didn’t really get it the first but this season he’s just completely off the charts you know great throw that to medium but close out the news um let’s close out the news so and you we had talked about this midweek where we talked about what would we want from like the Hellboy if if Bola is not drawing Hellboy and

01:28:59
Hellboy is being drawn by somebody I know I said Matt Smith um but stenbeck you know stenbeck had a great miniseries last year Ben stenbeck who did Baltimore did some uh sir Edward gray stuff but stb’s coming back to do apparently he’s having the ball with it and I guess MCN is doing like a looser framework but they’re doing a new sir Edward gray and it’s literally called and it’s like the end of a bunch of stuff and I guess m know was killing a bunch of people in it so this is coming out in November it’s

01:29:27
and but they’ve already like pre-solicitation so I don’t know what’s going to happen but the cover looks amazing it’s it’s it’s it’s witchfinder sever gray kind of wrapped in this like like like organic-ish armor kind of remind me of uh the uh the Dracula armor that he had like the crazy looking yeah reddish armor just brought I just brought up to my daughters like I wanted to watch the original braam stroker Dracula like I’m kind of been speaking of Copa you know

01:30:21
because I remember I I did go see that movie in the theater 93 fall 93 I was 16 and I remember like falling asleep a little bit so like I never rewatched it okay everything in there so watch that and then if you can watch but I want my daughter to see it because it’s like not only is it Gary Oldman you know slow horses it’s j Reeves it’s it’s Winona Rider you know it’s a everything about that movie should make it like a super hit but it like wasn’t right no it wasn’t and and

01:30:51
there was a lot of but everything is when they filmed that they filmed a bunch of stuff in camera they did a lot of rear projections so when they’re on the train like if there’s a video I think by Corridor crew and I want to say that the red letter media guys did like a retro did like a retro view on it there’s so much history of how that got made um they filmed a ton of stuff in camera anything like whenever that was supposedly taking place like they wanted to film it as close as they could to the

01:31:17
original dra I for exactly how it was done but anyway there’s a the scene where they’re on the train and you see like the eyes like and there that’s like literally like rear projection and and the train is a model and they zoom out and then they have like another rear projection like it’s it’s crazy the way that that was filmed like crazy even like the the fire is was real fire or something like the blue fire when they go over the thing like there’s a lot of stuff that it that’s just like real and

01:31:43
all the rats that are on the thing that’s like a bunch of real rats like no CGI like it’s like kind of nuts the way that was barely a thing then it was like a a carpet in Aladdin that was your CGI for the year but I want to say okay so what’s interesting is that is now that like I mean it’s been very Dracula heavy uh because that because of the way that that Kelly Jones book just kind of like knock my socks off um but if you look at the the suitors right so you have the you have Monica beluchi right so like

01:32:11
everyone is still kind of around right so was like I think Sati Frost Monica beluchi was the the the the three the the the three uh women in it uh the brides right and then but then if you remember the seers it’s Richard Rich Grant uh it’s Carrie always and I think Billy is it Billy Campbell is a Rocketeer is that sound right like there’s there’s those three guys are like in there and you’re just like well there’s still I still like you know so there’s a lot of there’s tons of talent

01:32:36
in that movie you’re right and Tom weights Tom weights is uh Renfield oh my gosh like just insane just insane you know Gary wasn’t First Choice oh I don’t know yeah we got maybe yeah I’m not I’m not sure I know what you’re talking about I can’t think of who was the first choice for that you know yeah want to jump off and look but you know and what’s funny is I love the way our conversations connect because we talk about Gary we talk about kova we talk about M mola he drew the tops comic

01:33:04
which we both love yeah and he did either story boards or he did a lot of concept artwork for so a lot of the stuff you can really see that was like a translated mola whereas I know that Atlantis was not right it was a Disney yeah didn’t it was too Disney F and it was no good so but that’s that’s the news that’s all the news it was a pretty good movie and very popular and people love it yeah just m I get what you’re saying like mola and I think there was an adaptation I think he

01:33:34
did the cover of the adaptation but the adaptation was a was a disi cover’s so cool looking it’s a it’s a great cover yeah there should be an artwork that’s why I feel like if you know if we uh eventually have like an art component of whatever this is we I don’t know how if we would be able to get like can we have MN I’ve seen a bunch of them all over the place can we have mola’s like can I get a book of all the mola new guys designs for the new guys cartoon that didn’t

01:34:03
happen right you know like can I get a book of that I know there is a PDF that I think that the kayf guys had that they went through one day and I was like is anyone is that anywhere can I have that like you know because there’s and I probably could make one from all the stuff that’s online or whatever but oh my gosh there’s so many interesting designs there that I would have loved that um and that was after Cosmic Odyssey but before Hellboy so it was just such such a such an interesting

01:34:26
time it’s funny MLA is in the background we didn’t really mention that just like in my in my head right now uh you know and and and like you said earlier like did he like cable or like because the cable designs that he’s done over and over again like because that so even the one here that pieces of that are live Feld right but maybe not the gas mask right that doesn’t he was definitely just you know Cable’s such a cool character that you can just add stuff and it doesn’t matter you could have a

01:35:01
grappling gun or a gasmaster or a weird thing sticking out behind his head it doesn’t matter because he’s cable he just has stuff whether it’s futuristic or or right or old that’s what I always kind of like like what I would have brought to cable was like yeah he’s got future stuff but you know this grappling gun could be from the 18th century who because he’s a time traveler they don’t they never double down on like does he just go back to 1990 did he go back to like 1890 like there’s a there’s so much

01:35:28
potential in that character that’s unrealized yeah well we’ll see what they’re going to do next it’s a shame because that that live F series first Contact was going to be how he goes back in time and I think helps Professor X I think he probably helps create the danger room how does Professor X have all this awesome future technology well maybe he maybe C helped them right it’s very and and that was a lifel idea that was him like we missed out on that maybe eventually maybe eventually I

01:35:56
don’t know I always want to say things will eventually come back maybe I don’t know I think he’s saying at the minimum five years he’s just hardcore going extreme for the next five years so all right I think that’s good for the news you know been for the news uh so this will be a Sunday and then Tuesday will be reviews and Thursday will be the Deep dive so stay tuned uh week four week four so yeah here we go we’re gonna end it and then we’re right at hour 35 so not not too bad

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but not too bad so all right I’m gonna end it and three two one stop recording

PETER A DELUCA AKAPD

AKAPAD is a versatile thinker known across Philadelphia, Europe, and even in the vast Multiverse as The Electic One. By day, he excels as an IT Mastermind, assisting individuals, both big and small, with a wide range of simple and complex solutions. In contrast, he is also a talented illustrator, a passionate comic book enthusiast, a creative content creator, and an active live streamer. Additionally, his podcast, “AKAPAD The Film Buff Podcast,” boasts an impressive catalog of over 500 episodes available on nearly every major platform.