Comprehensive Discussion on Comics, TV, Movies, and Pop Culture Trends

This extensive conversation covers a wide range of topics focused chiefly on comics, including new releases, industry changes, creators, and nostalgic reflections on the 80s and 90s comic styles. The dialogue also spans current TV series, movie industry trends, and streaming content, blending deep comic lore analysis with commentary on production, licensing, and fan culture. Highlights include detailed discussions on Spider-Man Noir’s unique Amazon/Sony distribution, the revival of classic 80s cartoons’ properties like Silverhawks and Centurions, and the interplay of creators and intellectual properties in both comics and adaptations. Special attention is given to the artistic evolution of major figures like Todd McFarlane and Eric Larson, the challenges in modern comic book markets, and insights into Marvel and DC’s shifting movie and TV strategies. The hosts reflect on nostalgia while engaging with contemporary media products, creator perspectives, and collector culture. Fans of comics, industry insiders, and pop culture enthusiasts will find the conversation a rich source of analysis paired with authentic fan enthusiasm.

Highlights

• 🕷️ Spider-Man Noir streaming via Amazon highlights Sony’s unique license strategies.
• 🦅 Revival of classic 80s shows like Silverhawks and Centurions shows lasting franchise appeal.
• 🎨 Nostalgia for 90s comic art styles linked to artists like Jay Le and Todd McFarlane.
• 🎬 Marvel’s movie scheduling chaos and streaming phases create fan confusion and excitement.
• 🧛‍♂️ New Kelly Jones/Matt Wagner Dracula series blends high art with horror roots.
• 📚 Collector insights on rare comics, original art, and the evolving market for physical and digital comics.
• 📺 TV and movie reviews emphasize creator authenticity and evolving fan expectations.

Key Insights

• 🕸️ Sony’s Freedom Enhances Spider-Man Noir Distribution: The Spider-Man Noir series being released on Amazon despite Sony owning the rights underscores how Sony’s lack of a proprietary streaming network lets it license content more freely. This leads to wider audience reach but challenges brand consistency across platforms, as seen with the canceled Spider-Woman show transitioning to directing projects by Olivia Wilde.
• 🦸‍♂️ Licensed Comics Are No Longer Churned Products: There’s a notable shift from the 80s and 90s cheap licensed comics churned out quickly for brand recognition to well-crafted modern licensed comics with respected creators like Joe Casey and Ed Brisson. This elevates the property’s respectability and attracts dedicated readers beyond casual fans.
• 🎨 Artist Evolution Causes Nostalgia and Change in Comic Aesthetics: Veteran artists like Jay Le express being unable to replicate their youthful styles, showing how artistic ability and style evolve, potentially affecting comic book series’ feel and reception. The hosts appreciate the delicate and detailed style of 90s art but acknowledge the necessity for change over time.
• 🎥 Marvel’s Phase Five Film and TV Slate Is Complex and Overloaded: Marvel’s current cinematic and streaming slate, including multiple movies, series (Guardians 3, Secret Invasion), and repackaged properties, reveals a strategic but confusing mix. With several reshoots or delays reported, fan anticipation is tempered by uncertainty about execution quality and coherence.
• 👹 Creative Conflict in Joker and Superhero Adaptations: The conversation criticizes certain creative choices in movies like Joker 2, highlighting how alterations to iconic characters (Thomas Wayne) risk alienating fans and dilute core mythos. This illustrates the tension between artistic reinvention and franchise legacy preservation.
• 📖 Physical Comics Market Faces Unique Challenges: Comic stores struggle with inventory, pricing, and minimum-order policies, impacting collector experiences. The rise of platforms like Whatnot democratizes access but also makes rare editions more expensive. Nostalgia drives collectors to retrieve childhood favorites, even as digital and reprint editions proliferate.
• 📺 Streaming and TV Narratives Blend Nostalgia with New Directions: Shows like Penguin and Agatha on Marvel/Disney+ take darker, complex approaches to classic characters, winning praise for depth and surprising character arcs. Meanwhile, creators like Kelly Thompson receive accolades for their ability to infuse established characters with fresh, mature perspectives.
• 🗯️ Creator Dynamics and Industry Realities Shape Content: The discussion about collaborations, script-writing challenges (Jeff Johns and Jim Lee), and creator-driven projects highlights how internal industry relationships and market demands influence final products. For example, the multi-creator nature of the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and X-Men comics impacts narrative cohesion and artistic consistency.
• 🧛‍♀️ Specialty Projects (Dracula, Godzilla) Showcase Industry Versatility: High-profile projects like Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones’ Dracula series demonstrate how comics can blend literary adaptations with sophisticated artwork and unique formats (e.g., overlay flaps, special editions). Similarly, IDW’s varied Godzilla licenses illustrate how publishers manage multiple facets of a franchise to appeal to diverse audiences.
• 🎭 Media Consumption and Fandom Interaction Evolve: The hosts’ reflections on binge-watching shows like “Shrinking” and nostalgia-driven series like the CW’s Arrowverse indicate how fan engagement oscillates between traditional episodic anticipation and desire for emotionally rich storytelling, impacting how comics and adaptations are positioned.

Detailed Takeaways

Spider-Man Noir and Sony’s Licensing Freedom

Sony’s ownership of Spider-Man-related IP without a proprietary streaming network results in content placement on platforms like Amazon, a strategy alien to Marvel Studios. This allows creative freedom and different audience reach but complicates brand identity. Spider-Man Noir, an 8-episode series, follows this pattern, with a fresh voice and cast that includes recognizable character roles, such as DL Maris and Ronald Mors.

Legacy of 80s and 90s Licensed Comics

The 80s licensed comics were often hastily produced, but modern licensed comics like those by Joe Casey or Ed Brisson maintain quality, respecting fan expectations. The renewed interest in properties like Silverhawks and Centurions alongside reprints suggests a robust nostalgia market, with modern creators revitalizing these classics.

Artistic Styles and Comic Book Evolution

Several artists lament not being able to replicate their early-career styles, which often involved fine, razor-like linework. This is evident with Jay Le’s work and Todd McFarlane’s sprawling Spawn-related creations. These evolving styles shape the feel of comics, appealing differently to modern audiences compared to nostalgic fans.

Marvel Movie Slate Complexity and Challenges

Phase Five contains multiple projects: Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Captain America 4, with ongoing production challenges (script rewrites, reshoots). The crowded schedule might lead to delays and compromises, impacting fan enthusiasm. The future of Spider-Man 4 remains uncertain, reflecting the tumultuous relationship between Sony’s productions and Marvel Studios.

Thematic Depth in TV Series: Penguin and Agatha

Marvel’s TV shows explore nuanced storytelling with complex character relationships, such as Penguin’s difficult family ties and Agatha’s integration into the wider Marvel narrative. Darker, mature storytelling contrasts with lighter, traditional superhero fare and attracts adult audiences.

Market Dynamics: Collecting and Distribution

The comic book retail market’s economic dynamics affect inventory availability and pricing. The rise of digital collections contrasts with collectors’ desire for physical, original issues. Platforms like Whatnot have reshaped secondary markets, sometimes inflating prices but improving accessibility.

Creator Collaboration and Content Production

The conversation sheds light on creative teams’ coordination, such as Jeff Johns’ plotting contributions to Jim Lee’s Justice League, or Todd McFarlane’s ideas for Spider-Man villain arcs that never materialized. These insights reveal the collaborative and sometimes fractured nature of comic production.

Specialty Projects and Artistic Innovation

Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones’ Dracula series exemplifies quality craftsmanship by pairing dark narratives with exquisite artwork in premium formats, showing a market for deluxe editions. Similarly, Tom Sholley’s work inspired by Jack Kirby and others illustrates creators’ ongoing homage to comic history.

Fan Engagement and Media Consumption Trends

The discussion covers the complexity of binge-watching TV versus episodic viewing, the importance of emotional narratives, and how shows like “Shrinking” and “Superman & Lois” resonate for different reasons. This indicates a blending of storytelling strategies to engage audiences.

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let me see oh we did it okay record start we uh I still think we need a little music intro a little maybe a little Baseline I got Dan you hear that get that back to us I’ll do it again Dan you got that that’s an original it’s a Rob mic original one more time hope that’s not from something like a like a that was from a 70s porn well maybe very possible the big bush era I think that is all right here we go episode episode three we’re doing it doing it live I’ll write and we’ll do it

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live um so we kind of are doing it live though because we have a Google doc there’s a Google a shared it’s exciting like shared dock try to keep everything us on the yellowbrook road the wi off path I forgot to do stopwatch that’s Marty off path all right here we go got the news news of the week so we’ve been sending you were sending me picks I’m sending you picks that can go a couple different ways but Spider-Man Noir yes for why is Amazon have that again what what is what is that Amazon Eight

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Episodes because Sony doesn’t have a streaming Network so they have the ability to just sell wherever they want to weird and it’s funny because they like we’re gonna do Spider-Man Noir show and they did it it just did it wasn’t Olivia wild supposed to be doing a Spiderwoman show remember that yeah yeah yeah I think now kind of canceled Yeah well yeah now she’s doing the evangelin movie with Margot Robbie oh that’s right she’s directing that you know it’s it’s

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hard for a girl to get canceled it’s kind of sexist but cancel both sides everyone’s cancelled everyone’s canceled everyone’s canceled so I don’t know I didn’t I looked at some of the cast you got uh uh DL Maris in there or Ronald mors who’s um lont who’s um what’s his name what’s the Saturday night movie so who’s in Saturday Garrett Mars’s kid is playing is playing Garrett Mars in the movie in in Saturday night which is awesome yeah but he’s gonna be in this

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too he’s gonna be in Spider-Man newarts so there was a couple editions this week no one really in Bren and G and just kind of putting himself in different universes and stuff so maybe he’ll be a prison guard be mean he’ll be Mar will be Marvel prison guard yes so just like his bad I don’t even have to call that a DC movie I don’t think anyone wants to call that that so I’ll watch it my girls will watch it you know um yeah we love Spider-Man gu and we love Nicholas Cage you know he he

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did a really good job in the spiderverse m in the spiderverse movie so this should be good it’s just keep it moving don’t keep it too slow you said it’s eight you think it’s Eight Episodes it yeah it’s confirmed eight yeah so hope y an 8 40 minute you know keep it tight yeah keep it tight um we’ll talk more about Sony later yeah yeah yeah so silverhawks got to Dynamite so that’s good so there’s the Thundercat silver I guess silver might have been in that whole announcement but at bristen George

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Cai uh but the cover I liked you you saw the Jaye cover just humans which has all the silver rocks which is perfect it’s pretty perfect daay um he’s tied with dynamite you know get him and a him and your boy must be good friends because he he’ll do covers for everything and you know they’re great you know I was in that Dynamite office one night and I’m looking at I think I sent a picture of it to you I was like it was a Tarzan cover that Jaye did not original art was there and I’m like like looking at it

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and it’s so like it’s just super delicate like it’s just like I guess it’s a brush or something just so cool looking it’s it’s very hard to describe but yeah that’s if I could get someone’s original art like a would be I think I would want to piece of Jaye art yeah you know we’re such we’re such nostalgist for the 90s like we love that 90s crazy aching with a razor blade Jay Le who did you know his de on Neymar and wildcast Trilogy and youngb strike file and I think it was

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someone telling me it might have even been you that Jay’s like yeah I physically can’t draw like that I don’t know how to draw like that anymore is that weird you’re an artist you you draw for a living but you can’t draw like that and I’m like that’s it’s neat it’s and a lot of artists will say that yeah but silverhawks of dynamite it’s a smart move we knew it was going to happen you know Thundercat was a success and somehow I know the cartoons were done by the same company so I don’t

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know if the toys were the same company you know it’s real murky I think there was only one wave of toys I don’t even know if um if the whole season ran I’m not even sure of that I don’t even think it did so if we’re getting silverhawks there then you know tiger sharks can’t be far behind got centurians I think centurians was that was one of my favorite shows they had great toys they had huge real big toys yeah these are these are the toys that are left out like in humanoids I can’t wait for somebody to

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pick up in humanoids and again all these shows incredible theme songs intros like the best like like right eight every 80s cartoon had an incredible theme songers Jason the wheel Warriors what did I hear Yesterday the um the DuckTales horn section is the same horn section in Thriller it’s the same Three Studio musicians playing horns that’s really that’s a really weird trivia but yeah so that’s pretty funny now it’s it’s funny we talk we were talking on the phone the other day

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that like all of the licensed Comics are pretty good or great like it’s kind of crazy like where licensed comics in the 80s were just kind of churned out to just have something recognizable on like more so the spinner rack not even they not really comic shops yeah well they those were they didn’t really super like they cared enough to try to make decent license Comics but it was like whoever was around like hey you you can draw this comic or oh you need work draw this comic but we didn’t care because we were

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just watching the cartoons as kids in the 80s we would get these Comics just because they were what we were watching and of course that led us into buying more comics well now 30 to 40 years later 40 uh it’s like here guys here’s your licensed Comics back and here’s actual creators you already enjoy you know here Joe Casey doing H Johnny Quest even though Johnny Quest was more like a my dad’s cartoon you know we still would watch it in reruns but here’s Ed Ed bristen Ed brist

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had a what a great run on Wolverine you know he’s a modern a couple good things yeah I feel like he’s pretty solid like I you know he’s pretty solid all around when I want to read them so yeah so um I know they’re doing Herculoids I’ve seen a preliminary sketch by Rob leld doing a Herculoids cover did you think you is that on your bingo card Rob Herculoids I love Herculoids they look no I didn’t think that I didn’t think that the the ThunderCats would have ever seen that

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either but that’s he’s had a couple covers there so I think we said the other week he should he should always do if you’re launching a new 80s book get lifei get that lifi centurions get that lifi Herculoids get that lifei uh silverhawks you know right yeah yeah maybe they’ll add it I don’t know I think that’s what they did when uh Thundercats I think they added that later it wasn’t on the original order forth and that book was already selling 100,000 copies of Thundercats one they

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do the life out cover 170,000 he just added 70,000 to the sales which is like which is amazing yeah I know very on this on this sh right you know is we’re just Pro Comics we’re not going to come on here and be like oh look at this shitty yeah it’s funny like because I we we kind of talk about artists fall off and that can kind of kill books so like the next news I had here was that teenage inal six was as Juan Ferrera on it it’s coming out in January and I’m like wait a sec like wasn’t that you know Cliff

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Chang Joel Jones Ralph Albert kerk and like what happened Chris did the Chris Burnham did the preview story zero yeah like so we’re already off the we’re already off like you have four people that are slow don’t know if he’s G I don’t know when he’s G to settle with the official artist of the book because doing every issue with different artist it’s a neat thing to do but it doesn’t really lock people in you know right and you want like an official artist to come back to every

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month yeah I love the surprise every issues look great every every issue’s been great have you actually been reading it yeah we’ll talk about later I have a view of the newest one’s the best one I think so far okay so far um so yeah because I want I can’t wait for next issue but Cliffhanger in that one I’m just like yeah so um um so so Marvel and Punisher are no more basically they they’re doing reprints or doing some stuff they’re reprinting a lot of Garena stuff they’re reprinting I think punch

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go in Marvel Universe they’re reprinting bring Frank it’s really solid stuff gadus just knows how to write Punisher today but they won’t do a new Punisher book every the last Punisher book was like a non-p Punisher book and Punisher book was apologizing for being Punisher and put him in hell and he had a like a biohazard symbol in that in the skull because the skull has been taken over by you know this is all relevant because Mike Baron who wrote great Punisher runs he’s working for Antarctic press they’re

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launching uh a book called private American which is like a it’s it’s a Punisher archetype with like I guess a yellow Don’t Tread on Me Right snake Okay and he’s so the description is this and then so there’s two things about this one man versus the tide of terrorist striking from the south situation at the US Mexico border topical spiraling out of control involving border patrol agents overwhelmed and Powerless alone Lanny takes on drug SM gun and sex traffickers okay I mean I get sex

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traffickers that’s a great villain Gun Runners great villains anything with drugs is great villain um so Twitter made them take it down because you can’t we kind of requested you remove any implications that our hero is shooting immigrants or harming them in any way for the article so they ex made take the description down so okay that’s fine you know that’s fine we had a Brian and I God back in the late 90s we kind of wanted to do a riff on like patriotic characters and we had this character

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called American man and we had taken the don’t t me but we had actually confused it with a separate you know the other American flag where it was the snake divided up into pieces and basic say like you know divide it we fall and we put that across his crotch think it’ be funny like you know there’s a snake you know but we put a don’t tread on me because we canuse the two flags across like just the the trunk the trunks oh my God that’s crazy F stop yeah um next we got spawn 77

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yeah so I found some art of this yeah I found some art of his original like 1977 work because it was on a couple different websites I don’t know if you’ve seen yeah the original sketch and he has like a clown character it’s a Spawn comic that mcfarling did when he was 16 he just drew a full comic you know and uh he he loves it and he decided to bring that comic to life with uh I guess creators for today I just want to see that original comic print that original comic we have that zero or

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everything like that but it’s NE because he’s not like he’s not a devil spawn I think he’s like a space pirate something or other he’s made like yeah I like the toy the toy is really cool looking actually dude our imaginations are so incredible at 16 when it comes to Comic Creations you know whether we were creating stuff for larsson’s creative villain contest and Savage dragon or just our just our own stuff um but this is neat it’s neat doing a comic based off a different

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spawn I mean mcfarling can’t seem to do a comic that’s not spawn like I would love a when it’s not called spawn it’s still spawn like yeah rat city is spawn 2099 basically yeah so I mean he tried he did do that book with Kirkman called haunt God 15 years ago which is really good but it’s kind of very spawn is and then the D just in the spawn Universe now right right right yeah but he had other characters when image started mcfarley was like oh each of us got like 10 or 20 characters in our pocket you do

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because we’re still waiting for 19 more characters Todd right oh what’s it what was what was an image zero we have blood BL became who became Tremor had sweat who was like James Hetfield but like bubble powers yeah yeah yeah yeah and he had another character called tears so he had Blood Sweat and Tears but we never got to see tears he te like I’m saving tears for something else he’s still still saving it but he never gave us sweat I want that sweat comment got you bleed no I’m fine you want it on

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you want baring sweat dude you can bottle it up I may want that I may want that um yeah so let’s see this is 1977 designed concept for Al Simmons took up the spawn Manel New York City spawn battles Angels demons and the worst of humanity from Vatican City to New York okay all right ail my problem is if you want to do a book called SP 77 make it look like it came out in 1977 make it look like yeah Atlas comic give us shitty paper bad coloring right you ever seen it but offset coloring yes that be it that’d be awesome looking who

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who wouldn’t want that book Larson does that when Eric Larson has his Savage dragon like he’ll do like 100 page special for 250 or 200 225 he took his old megatin stories that had Vanguard in and dragon and he CED it like a real crappy 80s comic he just he puts it in Dragon but it’s like it looks so cool cuz first off they were black and white Comics to begin with but then he colors it in a retro 80 style and it just looks shitty but looks shitty so it makes it look good and that’s I think that I

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think that what did chi recolor something in Fantastic 4 or was that or pcore pcore did it in X-Men pcore did it X Charlie will go back like he did a couple pages in a Captain America comic he went back and colored it in that like a more neat 70s style so’s a great colorist yeah yeah well you know he always needs like I would love for him to go back and color his own stuff but well like get to that we’ll get to that yeah yeah well godland was who was godland was that CB tree or that it’s a

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good colorist yeah kind of neat to see shy color it too though all right so blade is gone blade is gone from the mar Universe schedule MCU schedule off the schedule all together I guess I’m just confused with the phases now the phases I feel like they used to be really together so this phase so phase five is kind of nuts right I mean I’ve seen hardly any of phase five mman the WASP secret Invasion Guardians 3 secret um oh wait secret Invasion on this list twice uh Loki season two marveles what have season 2 which I

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didn’t watch any of uh Deadpool Wolverine Eko didn’t watch that at all Agatha about later Brave New World is um Valentine’s Day okay uh Thunderbolts asteris so what do you think they’re what’s the asri so they’re just going to call it new Avengers or dark Avengers on that day I think it’s G be dark I think it’s GNA be dark Avengers it just seems easy to do yeah I’ve seen all of this stuff and uh like there there there’s bits and pieces of gems all of it but none of it like really rocks you

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like the phase four stuff right so you know we’ll see you know I give everything a chance I’m not gonna stop watching Marvel stuff especially with since my kids watch it yeah and then they have iron heart which was filmed like years ago and then born again which is in March which was totally re filmed that went from a refil refilm that went from a Ali MCB comedy to a Frank Miller dark show well that’s good I just find it funny that like they didn’t they’re they’re getting a lot better like with

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announcements where were non- announcements like because I think like there was just rumors that they were bringing like foggy and Karen back and then they they just have set picks and I’m like how did did they get cont usually someone gets contract it’s in like variety it’s in deadline you know now they’re just like uh they I guess they’re in it you know or Joe Bertha’s like posting like he’s in some shop in a Punisher outfit and someone’s like I guess he’s Punisher I guess that he’s

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back like not in anything you I would love to not know any of that stuff I hate spoilers I love news but I hate spoilers so yeah yeah it’s it’s it’s tough because well what’s weird about it is like I know that I know that the Joker 2 there’s a scene that’s in that people filmed of the steps of them both in costume and both doing the thing and then that’s not in the movie okay and then there’s also a part I saw there’s a clip today off the S it was on Instagram where you know at the

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very end when she’s singing to him and he’s like she’s like he’s like please stop singing please just talk just talk to me I was thinking that throughout the whole movie that’s what that’s what this whole thing was like I thought this is him like saying like oh my God the whole movie was like that the entire movie was like that I’m like just stop singing stop singing It’s not servicing the story it’s funny because there must be something about cutting Joker scenes

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because how much if Joker was cut from the original Suicide Squad movie like yeah yeah yeah right or you know there’s an awesome Joker scene cut from the Batman the the the Baton Batman movie yeah the whole scene I know it’s frustrating being nobody’s Hollywood come to us we’re nobody’s but we have you know yeah thought good notes okay so like that they’ll listen to us we have notes I don’t understand and this actually goes back to like the 90s where I think like we were when

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movies be everything was $100 million to make right yeah I think I think our friend I and said like why don’t we just give a hundred filmmakers a million dollars and they’ll make like all tiny little movies right that’s not the way it is but when we think about Joker 2 in the same vein you spent $200 million on what on the licensing of the Saints Go Marching In like what are you talking about like how much break 20 million it’s probably the people who own happy birthday they’re like give us that

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happy birthday Marching In I don’t know who wrot that like a that tested worse Aquaman 2 I think so yeah Aquaman 2 tested worse than the backg girl movie we’ll never see um like they like zlov like is shelving and then they have a cartoon at the beginning of this movie and I’m like oh that’s right we’re not going to get the John Cena what was it like Wy coyote versus zme movie where John Cena’s like a lawyer or something which is done and tested and did well in testing and it’s it’s gone it’s gone I

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don’t understand these movie studos they’re tax rles all right we’re not gonna do this movie we spent what they spend 70 million on batir or something or 90 million5 at least yeah and I hear they get a$2 million tax WR off so wait a minute so us normal people paying our taxes give this to the movie studios for failing like that’s our tax money we are giving the government our tax money so a movie studio can spend 100 million on a movie shelf it to get $20 million back I think as taxpayers we should get

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to see those movies if you’re gonna write off a movie it now should be owned by the government the government owns your movie now they just paid you $20 million for a kill Fe right that’s our $20 million let us see the movies yeah I just don’t know why it’s not like like a pay-per-view like do you remember when Aquaman didn’t come out the Aquaman pilot and they put it on like iTunes for like a dollar or something like that and it did pretty well like Mercy Reef Mercy Reef yeah

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which was Justin Hartley who went on to play the Green Arrow on small because he was good he was a good Aquaman you know L Diamond Philips and then Aquaman is played by on Smallville what’s his name Rick no oh uh who Reacher Reacher yeah now Alan yeah yeah who was also an incredible hawk when the hawk and Dove characters on Titans oh yeah yeah yeah that’s right that’s why I know him and M Kelly right yeah he’s funny too he was funny in that he was funny as as as haulk and I was like this is pretty cool

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like he’s pretty interesting so fans uh fans cast him as saber-tooth in the Marvel Universe and I’m like yeah that’s pretty perfect that’s a pretty awesome Sabertooth yeah he’s pretty big he’s a pretty big guy um so finish out the Marvel stuff so I don’t even understand like I’m not even sure what could be in these things so in the new so b six and Spider-Man 4 is just not even it’s it’s it keeps getting pushed back they had a bunch of Tom Howen interviews

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this week where he’s like the script’s not right we keep throwing it out and it’s like geez like a lot because wants to do a street level movie my hopes were like Scorpion and black cat CU scorpion you have cast it and he’s the phenomenal actor right right then but then son’s like no we want to do Multiverse and null and Marvel’s like gross you guys don’t know what you’re doing right and then like Marvel’s like so we’ll meet in the middle so we’ll have a a street level

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Cosmic Multiverse movie that sounds like a recipe for disaster yeah yeah I don’t we don’t need so many ideas in that we’re okay so Fantastic Four First Steps so that’s kind of a good I think that’s it would be a good kickoff but that could also very well be I guess if they the Retro right I almost feel like they didn’t do retro right I mean they forgot in Wonder Woman 8 8 84 85 like 84 like they forgot like the trailers were all like retro and this was going to happen and in the

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movie itself they were in a mall and everything in the mall was from 1987 like it was like everything in the mall was wrong like that’s what was so weird about it I was like and you didn’t have the music in it you didn’t have blue Monday you didn’t have should be pretty easy to do no that was a bad move from the Geto because like here we have a Justice League movie so what we want to see is what the characters do after the Justice League movie so that’s why Aquaman 2 is a I’m

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sorry Aquaman is a billion dollar movie because it’s like all right here’s the character after Justice League Iron Man 3 is the first movie after Avengers it’s a billion dollar movie right so what you do Wonder Woman oh here’s a story set in the 80s when she wasn’t Wonder Woman if you watch the other movies so it’s like right right where she’s like I not Wonder Woman okay cool it’s a dumb a yeah was really bad plus uh uh you know she brings back a guy into another

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guy’s body that’s cool yeah and then technically that’s right she she sleeps with him a bunch of times and what that guy wakes up it’s like I feel really good I don’t know why right and then they see each other at the end she’s like I’ll see you later like it’s just so weird it’s just so like she knows it’s it’s just it’s so very very strange so yeah so the Nerds level like I just put a different mask on and I’m your boyfriend so what is so NE wait a second so next year

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is just Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 and Captain America oh yeah yeah I almost feel like that’s that’s three that’s three Marvel movies that’s enough yeah four if you get Spider-Man wait isn’t isn’t Captain America didn’t the toys come out for that for McDonald’s like six months ago or something like that so weird Disney kept moving all the dates around on the Marvel movies that’s so strange I think that’s but that movie suffers from the same thing Daredevil see Daredevil

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benefits for being reshot but Captain America 4 has been reshot multiple times with who even knows it in it I just hope they got like a incredible they better get like the best editor for that movie well I don’t yeah I feel that Diamondback’s gonna get cut I feel like has Diamondbacks in it and it’s I love diamond back yeah they changed that Sabra she’s like was a Jewish superhero now she’s like a Black Widow right Red Room train assassin right right right way to go Carlo Esposito right got

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filmed later and add into the movie do you remember yeah he’s a shoehorned in he shoehorn in you remember New Mutants there was a rumor that they were shooting all these x23 scenes separately and we’re gonna shoehorn that in a New Mutants and then they just like sat it out too yeah well there was a there was a long-standing rumor that like uh Jan Carlos posito kept like playing with the media like I’m Professor X like I could be press X and I’m just like okay you’re doing that and now he’s not now he can’t

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be like it’s there’s too many yeah there’s too many people so but yeah so you basically have Fantastic 4 then February that’s from July to February nothing Untitled Marvel Studios film well no I’m s I’m talking about February 25 then July 25 and then something I guess Valentine’s Day is their their like spring Untitled Marvel Studio film you talking about 2026 yeah 26 so like it’s and then it’s our Avengers doomsday and then Untitled Marvel Studios film and then Avengers Secret

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Wars lot of Untitled St yeah I don’t know it just doesn’t I feel that do there’s no way I feel like Secret Wars will get pushed back to November I feel like all these are going to get shipped it again I don’t think this is going to work I don’t think that’s I don’t think that’s G to happen so I don’t know thing about Fantastic 4 is it comes out what two weeks after a Superman so that’s kind of like a not giving each other a lot of room there because I have

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super high hopes for Superman I have high hopes for all these yeah I just you know I I I don’t know if I if I if I know if like if it’s G to feel like a movie I feel like Fantastic 4 feels like a TV show I feel like some of the stuff I’ve seen so far feels very you know very like uh what’s the show what’s the show on Apple TV plus that looks like it has more production value from what’s the Ronald Ronald deore Show Oh For All Mankind yeah that looks like it has a lot of production value I

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know it’s space and all that stuff yes like a lot and I think like pet looks like it was shot like in a warehouse you know and and it is I’m sure the actual movie will look good what they’ve shown us is like rough stuff rough stuff pretty yeah and also like Natasha Leon is in it and I don’t want her in it I don’t know what she’s who she’s going to be she’s an actress she’s gonna play hopefully not Natasha Leon because she plays Natasha Leon really good right she’s really Nat Leone in orange the new

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black and she’s Natasha Leon in yeah uh what’s that what’s the peacock show where she’s basically Columbo oh Pokerface yeah Poker Face I watch one episode of that and I just like got like ex exhausted me the I think the Ryan Johnson writing I want to get into some writing stuff later that I’m like I just get annoyed by it and I don’t want it and I just like I’m like in it for a little bit and I’m like all right I’m okay I think I’m good so now theha Leon she’s what your cousin right she’s my

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she’s my uh your redheaded cousin my phonetically named cousin correct so I had a fun Friday I took a personal day I’m still fighting these allergies I’m sorry I sound like this um but I found so I I knew going to go visit my daughter at College in University of Delaware so I kind of plan what comic stores am I hitting along the way so um as one should well she’s not gonna be up on time like so it’s like I might as well start you know so she says you want to have breakfast I said I can come by

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in the afternoon she like want to have breakfast and then she text me late at night she’s like I’m up late I’m coming in like 11:30 I’m like fine so I still kind of leave the house at the same time I go to boo Corner which is basically like um it’s like an Amish market but they have a comic shop and it’s such a confusing layout because it’s like this giant building and then they have like two other like wings they added on I can never the dirt Mall the dirt Mall from

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all rats yeah I never know how to get anywhere I like I’m in there and I’m like what way am I going and then I’m like where did I park and it’s always by sheer luck I walk out of an exit and I might see my car like it’s like okay um but I knew he has always has dollar books um super nice owner he actually bought so that’s e comics and games he bought the comic book shop in is that’s called the com book call the comic book shop exclamation point in Wilmington Delaware which I was going to go to but

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I was already when I went to New York uh Delaware I went to Captain Blan so a couple things there is I wanted hit all the dollar boxes right so when I was there the goty the manager e was like you should go over the comic book shop because we just expanded now we have like I think he said 60 long boxes and my OCD wouldn’t be able to do it because I have to look through all 60 like I can’t yeah stop I can’t could have a gem in it it could I just well this one I feel like this is kind

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of how this went was so I blew through I combined both box I shouldn’t have done that but I combined the boxes um but I found something and I I called you about it and I didn’t know about this so I didn’t know about profit zero yeah and I didn’t and like I was like what and and it’s small it’s really thin it’s really really thin it’s razor thin I think only maybe 10 11 pages of art you know but that is danamp panosian so this is what so this is after this came out technically

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after wear in chronology let me see came out dampo penciled and in profit one through four number five is when stepen Platt comes in um and then and then panosian’s idea was he was either going to do one of two things he was going to do profit 3,000 which was part of the extreme 3,000 story that that Lal was gonna they were trying to heading towards we were gonna get a supreme 3,000 Young Blood 3000 but then I guess when that kind of he held off on that idea he changed it into profit Unleashed so what that

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profit zero is it’s extremes version of like a wizard one half it’s very much styled like a wizard one half it’s kind of cheaply made it’s thinner but it’s still better than like probably a wizard one half and DW is beautiful in that he it’s like he’s he’s he’s like I think he was looking at some Barry WIS or Smith stuff and he was just trying to add that type of detail that Barry wisor Smith was doing yeah this is so he’s talking about profit Unleashed right that was going to

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be the miniseries he was going to do when Stephen Platt took over the ongoing series but he went into advertising instead which pays better and it’s easier yeah but this character the Exile is pretty amazing yeah I mean the the car it was just like it’s very inspired it’s kind of nuts to see it because it’s just really good what I got put front you here we go yeah yeah so just like really really solid really inspired um and just like the art just a little tighter and then you sent me in the chat

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like you sent me the San Diego cover which is weird because the San Diego cover has a lot of uh I have to put it on our Instagram um which I got the name for it I just have to put it together so after I think after that yeah I think after after the show I’ll put in like art of stuff that we talk about you know it’s kind of put in and then maybe as as like kind of notes in like news one two three four five um but yeah that cover the cover for that zero it’s funny and this was 30 years ago because 94

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right yeah crazy years ago but I never knew I never saw it so that’s kind of crazy that then it came out says came out July 94 yeah so I never knew I never knew that came out but yeah pretty fun pretty fun Stacks so let me just kind of throw up some stuff that I got so because this I this is for my Chris wnc session section also Cass cover you know that’s a beautiful cover that was a great that’s a great cover yeah like I always love seeing Superman and Captain Marvel fight yeah this was this and the cassada

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of palotti cover is like just crazy good just really really good um and then that’s a Jim balant got Jim balant in there what was that what was that character thing D does it show it on the cover no is it the exact same gray and blue as Batman yes that’s an interesting move yes gist his name is gist by Chuck dexon and Jim Bon but this is but this is asbat so this is kind of cool this is like right before you know it’s right before the you know he changes the costume because you see the claws and stuff and just

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like good just good just good tight Jim balent like you know I know Catwoman’s where it’s at but um but I got this I don’t know if you remember this you probably like the two backups in this I don’t know if you remember this so this is came out in 2002 I got it for because I’m want to rebuild my my Brew Baker uh Batman which is great but there is um like a a Brew Baker like dick sprangs here in the back yes I don’t know if you remember this I remember it now I forgot yeah yeah so there’s a dick sprang story

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and then there is Aang like like a carmine Infantino story di BR is the only comic Creator whose name is also a sentence Oh and then that’s right there’s a there’s a Sergio aragones beautiful the back I I’m obsessed with Sergio aragones where Pat Oswalt wrote that and then so the second story was Eric shanower and James Tucker who directs a lot of the DC movies he did the red R Ro the black bat retro so you thinkal wrote The Aragon story he did yeah you it must be hard for Aragon when

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he worked with writers who aren’t as funny as him like I love Pat oswal but not as funny as Ser AR I like I like Mark evanir not as fun as not as funny as Sergi aronis yeah I think that evanir does the shape of it I understand what he’s doing oh no the guy’s a great writer yeah and there’s he he go grew is you know we got like 200 plus issues a grou ah look at that beautiful yeah that was one of my favorite of Superman like the yeah look at how fun stupid that’s stupid fun you know some people

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subscribe to the idea that Batman needs to be stylized and Superman needs to be realistic I I kind of feel like I love Superman being stylized give me give me yeah I do too the Tim sales give me I know people prefer Tim s Batman but Tim s Superman is gorgeous yeah look my my argument on Superman was that I think that Batman was just is is in more interpretations because it was allowed to allowed to right right and I almost wonder if that’s more of like because Batman 66 we know now is a big success

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right it was not a success it was cancelled right and then it got syndication yeah the was a huge success for two years like every continue I think something like did ABC not want to do it anymore and then they sold it off to another Channel and the channel got real I mean the ratings went down by the third season and then uh the third season looks really cheap everything about third season is cheap and I think the kids called on to that so a fourth season was planned but then the people who had the rights for the third season

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they destroyed the sets and the people who who were gone to do the fourth season like well we wanted those sets well now we’re not going to do the show so the first two seasons spectacular ratings through the roof kids it it was a bat Mania through and through but it wore it wore out fast right reading they were probably like oh we only had a 100 people 100 million people watching this show we better make a new show yeah now the lore of the Adam West and I don’t know if you know this or

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not supposedly the way that that had to shoot is they shot like almost like 10 episodes at the exact same time because you only had Burgess Meredith for like four days five days you had and he could be on set with C Cesar Romero for four5 like so they were constantly shifting So Adam West supposedly said that’s why he created this like aloof talk where he’s reading something almost like almost for the first time he’s like surprised at almost every he’s this ponderous like surprise so I don’t know

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if that’s true or not or if that’s just him like kind of masking his like very like wooden acting so I don’t know could be you know it’s Charming you know but but my my whole point with the Superman thing is I feel like Superman couldn’t be stylized and so Kirby goes in 72 he wants to draw Superman like Superman they’re just like no it has to be on this because I guess that was probably at that time more merchandising was heavier probably on Superman at that time Superman was always number one even

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during the batmania I think Superman comics sold better right little better consistently Until Dark Knight Returns that’s when it started to like even out and then just Dark Knight Returns and then the Batman movie right right yeah there are times Superman pulls ahead but it’s been Batman since then right right yeah so but just a couple other things so these are I’m getting the and look at look at how bad the the color separation is here it’s not it’s just like all run down it’s a

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banding banding was a real issue back then when they tried to go one color to the next shade it would actually look like bands of colors yes this is Andy Cooper Andy Cooper Joe Cooper and I was like so the whole the whole piece of my collection now that I went from like 20 long boxes back down to 10 probably under 10 now is a I’m now figuring out when I had these big runs of stuff like the new Gods run or I had like a warlord run which I wasn’t really nostalgic for but I wanted it then I had

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it well I’m not nostalgic for that so I ended up like selling it and get made pretty good money on it but I think I just want the same Comics I had from 1989 to like 1995 basically you know so but I know some of these later issues I couldn’t really find so I mean these are some pretty good these are like the Ron Garney uh issues of of Ghost Rider so I went through and they had 50 they went through to 50 so I just went like early Roger Cruz issue in there where he’s just like aping Jim Lee throughout the

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whole thing look at that yeah people always complain about the 90s oh we hate these gimmick covers they’re all great they’re all really fun did I want to spend the money no because I was a poor guy making $5 an hour working at a local pharmacy but I loved them they were so cool you know I would display them around my room where there’s a especially glow-in-the dark covers I had a wall of just glow-in-the darkk comic covers yeah that’s what I grabbed I grabbed um so that’s a like Hall of I

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don’t even know what this was that’s post Hol oil it’s post um Post Cereal I got I got this oil cover which is a PCO really cool um yeah and then they had had like a whole X Factor like run basically the whole spaia run there so so that was really solid I’m going back and getting all the criminal books you know like the whole issue just because the issues are both double-sided and I just some of the trade dress this I actually hate this trade dress here I think this looks terrible the subtitle

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here but they have a lot of back back matter and stuff that is like not reprinted in all the way yeah um what else did I get so because again I sold my whole cyber force run an now I just have to get my cyber force run back you know the thing about you always want to have the stuff you had as a kid there’s a Nostalgia factor for those books the feel of that paper the look of the colors I Feel Like Anything late 90s onward where digital coloring really takes a hold it’s okay to read those in

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hard covers it’s okay to read them the razor blade Jay you can’t draw that he can’t draw that today but what what I’m saying is like books from the 90s they don’t have the files for them they have to scan in the books and they just don’t look great they look a little grainy like you can tell they’re a scan of a comic book like you could buy there’s official hard covers put out by companies that are just scans of comics um but so as far as stuff what we start collecting foress you know he had

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two I got a story about everything li pachio like issues drawn of that comic series Fortress like image KN it was supposed to end and he had two at least two miniseries planned out and the first one start it but now that uh who’s com book.com what’s that guy’s name Jim vardi Jim vCard is working for Image Comics now and his goal his goal is to get image United completed so that book came out what was that was that the 15th that 20th anniversary of image yeah 20 20 and now we’re at 33 this April it’s funny we

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talked about Jaye like I just got because this I know I sold in my wild cats fromy um Wildcat Trilogy is up on the DC Comics app I think wildstorm kept most of their files but you’ll look through it digitally and then all of a sudden you’ll see a scan page or one of them is missing a page actually really yeah they don’t they don’t pay super attention like we do we’re a little you can’t yeah that’s good the other thing is I believe in Jay I believe in Jay Le can actually get that

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done I think if he wanted to draw in that style he could oh so here we go and now I’m getting getting some we’ll get into that a little later a little later so but yeah super fun so but the the thing that kind of surprised me is that when I went to so so e got a ton of these books in there some of them in the dollar books when I went to um Captain bluen in Newark and most of that store is catered to the college town okay there’s a lot of Trades a lot of hard covers a lot of um but the but the people in there they

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there was a lot of people just talking about absolute Wonder Woman which we’ll get to on the reviews but what I thought was interesting was they had they had really good they always had good sets but I always thought sometimes their sets would might be a dollar or two overpriced I told you the set that I got and that was like to me it was like way underpriced and I just don’t even understand it so like and then I opened them up because I think I told you about it because it was all sealed so pretty cool so they have

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these little things where my God I can’t see anything like yeah it’s okay so one to 14 and then your question was and there’s only there was only three issues that had uh upcs and there were some of the later ones so it was like 111 12 just be 1112 yeah just 11 12 okay and I don’t remember they’re all direct Market except for 11 and 12 were new stand right yeah so it’s one to 14 and it was I thought it was 30 it was 35 one and this is like and they’re perfect like there’s they’re perfect

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copies of the Spider-Man run which I sold sold my Spider-Man one to like 16 for like 80 bucks like I don’t know so it’s fine so that’s fun so not only did I get it back but I now profited on it if you could only spend less than $45 on 15 and 16 you’re fine what’s amazing about that series is there’s millions of them look at that you know I think that’s my favorite Spider-Man drawing ever uh yeah I think so I think this cover just looking at this I was looking at this morning I

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think this is this was just something I’d stare at you know still still I can I mean he he went all in on that book he spent so much time drawing it like he didn’t he didn’t rush anything especially the drawing of Spider-Man yeah so to get to have to get this back for very little was really fun and that’s a crazy price for that and I was looking through some of the other sets and I was like this this isn’t even compared to the other sets they had they L more sets know fun com own you ever

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you ever own the Platinum you ever own the Spider-Man Platinum Number One no it’s cool because it’s a it’s a heavier card stock cover slightly nicer paper inside it’s like a glossier stock oh really it’s got Pinups in the back including one piece that was never printed um it was printed on a Spider-Man keep stake collection remember the keep sayate collections they were like oversized cards and like a white envelope yeah yeah really yeah PL not you can get a copy like I think you know what pre-co you can get

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it for $100 postco world I don’t know yeah but yeah if you could ever get a platinum copy it’s pretty awesome yeah I’m surprised that I’m just I was just surprised at how how I got that now the other thing this kind of goes right into this I bought a physical copy of this I had a digital but I bought it absolute Wonder Woman which was our number one review so yeah this surprised me I don’t know I mean this is so we would we were talking about this earlier in the week this is

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probably this is the best Kelly uh Kelly Thompson ever right that’s pretty much I agree pretty much really good she really she really brought it like she must have worked extra hard like she must have been like talking with Snider and I guess his vision of such a dark Universe She said all right I know what to do and she did it and that’s the thing that like this isn’t a spoiler but every absolute book is just a darker harder Universe where everything from the beginning is just so much more difficult for these Heroes and

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I’m really excited for Superman um to see how he does it because the point is these people are having these heroes are having such a harder origin like maybe at least them being greater Heroes you know right yeah it was it was surprising I it’s it’s funny like a lot of the tropes that I would I thought thought I would have hated I was fine with like I really in comics a lot of times I dislike when they have like a passage of time and then they have the same panel and over and over again so they had I think it

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was three doubl spread Splash pages of like the cave of her growing up as like you know probably like a four fivey old to whatever she turns into but you can see the evolution of like the cave and everything and I’m just like I should hate this and I just like liked it I just liked it all the way through yeah and I think Jordie Bair just like is ridiculous on color I think she like went way way up and ha Sherman I know that I he’s what I don’t understand how we’ll have to have a in another week

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we’ll have to have who’s the hardest working like artist because Hayden Sherman’s doing this there’s a Batman 12 issue Maxi series that he’s doing and he’s doing like another book who independent um the mats and Tomlin I want to say the person who kind of wrote the Batman okay or did did like the screen did like the last pass on it but I think because of rules wasn’t allowed to say that that he or she wrote that I’m not even sure if that’s a man of rules are really

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weird in Hollywood you know it’s a rule I don’t like let’s say you’re a director with your you have a directing partner or it’s your brother and you two direct movies if you ever direct a movie separately you’re not allowed to direct a movie together again that weird doesn’t make any sense no doesn’t make and brothers don’t direct movies together anymore I was gonna ask you that yeah because I know that one of them did the run the driveway dolls last this year so I mean

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they might direct it together like I’m a executive producer so you know they’re just gonna help each other out this is all speculation so but but you don’t want to get in trouble with the Director’s Guild rob you don’t want to get you don’t want to get they might be watching they might be one of the 30 people watching us that’s not a slam matter fact 30 people watch is amazing because we talk and we talk so much we talk like I hope whoever listens has the most boring job

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or just as nothing to do right right it’s just on just on in the background worse I hope they’re just listening to us like yeah that’s probably better well we thought about we might we might be adding some visual elements we’ll see I gota see how like time and the whole point of this is just to not add extra things into our busy time you know but still want to like get together and do this you know um but yeah DC is still kind of killing it I mean the the Nightwing the Nightwing was pretty solid

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pretty open Dan Waters um who’s did a lot of backups and detected which I really like and Dexter soy doing a slightly different style but there’s a if you might you know the way Nightwing’s jumping in this one scene I’m just like I’ve seen this a bunch of times but like it’s a little bit extra in it I think it’s really good right good always it’s a hard job taking over Nightwing after Tom Taylor because Tom Taylor has such a solid understanding of the DC Universe

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you know um and his Nightwing one was really good he really he really made Nightwing Progressive it’s kind of the way David melini wrote Spider-Man and that’s one of the reasons why his run will always be held so high in our regard because Spider-Man was learning he was getting better he was you know everything was progressing and that’s the way he approached Nightwing that’s why his Nightwing run every everyone should read it so having to follow him up great yeah having to follow him up difficult and I

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I like tisue yeah and then coming off and drawing from like Bruno Rondo who kind of like set the new like cover in and some of invent him U interior so to have just do a very traditional de a little bit of an uphill battle very solid incredible yeah they experimental issues that look like that one where it’s like he’s he’s going up and down the sides of the building and yeah just like it’s a it’s like a like a mobus strip like a you know which um Al did in that Silver Surfer which is great which

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if you read that digitally it’s it’s it’s as the mobia strip so if you read it digitally it’s like 6070 pages long which is pretty cool oh when it’s broken down when you follow panels okay yeah yeah it’s really cool so that’s where the digital can technically help um but yeah the so Tom Taylor left you know he got I mean this is the way he used to be he got promoted basically so he went from Nightwing it’s a detective getting promoted detective uh which again we didn’t know who was going to take over

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detective so I’m happy this happened because um so this is well no I guess I guess they never work together Miguel janon work with Tom King and in I guess on the Grayson book so it’s weird he’s also coming from Nightwing right in a way way so way yeah but this is the best uh Mel janon I’ve ever seen and Mel janon got a lot of he’s almost like a Greg land of uh poser which is an app you can use on your iPad and just kind of like reposition people but it’s a horrible name for children of

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the 90s like app’s called poser like which you’re fake and you copy and you’re you know what I mean not cool right right but this is the best and’s and I just I guess I don’t get it because like these new guys like OS Schmidt they just like do all of it he does all the colors too like it’s like crazy it’s like way up and down like it’s it’s really good but this is the best he’s done and there’s a bit of a misdirect in the beginning but um kind of like the same way the last

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Batman was going to be where or the the absolute Batman you thought someone was going to die in the beginning and it was like okay that you’re gonna do this again okay great um but then I also was nervous because then they go and they show some Thomas Wayne stuff and I’m like what I hate about Joker the first Joker which we keep talking about Joker is don’t desecrate my Thomas Wayne you know what I mean like don’t do that don’t make him crappy don’t make him I want I want to have it like the Thomas

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Wayne where he’s gonna take he took care of car Falcone like when he got you know he was taken to the house like he has to do no harm that’s an understanding of the character because there’s a reason Bruce Wayne wants to be a better person because he knows his dad was a better person and even though his dad’s rich and sure you know it’s it’s a her of money but he’s doing the right things with it and I always like that storyline better you know he was he was great in the Nolan films he was just you aspire

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to be your dad and it’s not when your dad doesn’t let you down you know and that’s what the Joker movie was doing it’s like oh you’re kind of a scumbag cheating on your wife you know you’re a jerk like and and that’s why Todd Phillips doesn’t understand Batman so that’s why he doesn’t understand Joker that’s why he doesn’t understand I mean he may understand it and just not want to do it that way but if you’re gonna do it that way why make it a Joker movie when you could have

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made it the maniac which Maniac might not have made a billion dollars so I I understand right right right aut way in a convol in a convoluted way I would have preferred to see Todd Phillips own character that to me would have been a more interesting movie that him create a version of The Joker which wasn’t the Joker which really any version of The Joker is actually the Joker so I’m totally contradicting myself like I always like to say you can’t do Joker wrong because everyone’s got their own take on it as

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long as it’s crazy it works right but like it’s everything Brown Joker it’s like yeah it’s like when you took Thomas Wayne you you he’s no longer Thomas Wayne like would a movie with a real Thomas Wayne like the fact he should have been a good guy he never should have had an affair which makes Joker’s mom’s perceived Affair even crazier right right right yeah you know that would have been fine but he’s he’s he’s a in the bathroom yeah so it’s like okay well that’s probably

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correct you know so uh so you just get a little ner a little nervous when they dip into some of that I do anyway I get them like don’t don’t and I don’t know I don’t love all the Retro I don’t like I don’t like it when they do too much retro content I think it’s lazy um so that was going in the past you know Superman did you read Superman 19 with Dan MOA did that and Williamson Dan MOA just that dude can just draw anything make everything clear I feel like that was a great issue being the

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first but like how far in the future is it I think it says it against eight months or something it’s it’s it’s has to get there because basically Super One super woman Lois Superwoman Lois is Superwoman when did purple eyes when did that happen that was like the 90s or something was that might have been in MC Guinness’s run you just have purple eyes I don’t know who we don’t know why does she have purple eyes it’s cool does it’s cool but they it’s been that way since

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like I think I want to Targaryen right doesn’t the targaryan supposed to have purple eyes yeah they forgot they forgot to do that um so I didn’t read Braven the bowl this week but I usually I usually scam it in on the DC app but thenm does a cover to that but I feel like I’m that book is robbed it’s like issue like 17799 cover price I only read it on the DC app when it’s a month later right but like did you know that there was like a five issue Kelly Jones story in there yes with nwing you might know that but

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like does anyone in anyone know that anyone going to the store we’re ridiculous yeah well and we go to the store I just think that it’s like and do we need that I even well we could even say that about Action Comics so Action Comics has two stories it’s like five bucks I don’t know if I need the the super go story in the back I don’t know if the story in the front is strong enough to be its own issue you know what I mean like I don’t know I feel like they’re both a little robbed I’ve always

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felt Action Comics should be semi Anthology you know like just have you have your Superman story you have something because honestly does DC need or do people want a Supergirl book a Super Boy book a Conor K like do we like I don’t know the Superman family can really fulfill that many series like like the bat Universe the bat Universe you know the sales on Batman’s all down you know I think I think finally comic people are just so sick of buying 20 Batman books a month right and you and I

00:58:17
have always felt this way let’s focus let’s bring it in let’s give us two Superman books you know I don’t they’ll never do two Batman books but like just give us really good comics and right now I think Superman and action are kind of in a good spot there things that could be better you know yeah but only doing but it’s too fast because Wade’s doing like we’re getting like four six issues five issues Wade and he’s gone like he’s gone like so it’s like that is too fast

00:58:41
it’s just not for a while yeah not enough time to because we we we love the idea of action and detective kind of being around the same numbers you know and and when Bendis came on action they it was a bonly comic or bi-weekly which everyone means every the week right they took that and made it monthly and then detective just surpassed it and and as far as you know we do love Legacy numbering you know it’s cool to keep them the same you know even though detective officially came out first detective was the you know an

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early your DC Comic before action action number one still is the launch of the DC Universe right right right right yeah that’s never gonna change that’s never gonna change so so in our minds keep them even keep keep them you know that’s fan fan notes that’s very yeah that’s a very Fanboy thing so did you read did you read it took me a while but I I it took it took me three tries to finish the Iron Man book even though I put it on the list you put on list I put it you put it on the list you’re like I thought

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it like real important to read I liked it because it really like I hate um I hate Corporate America yeah in Ro life it’s like all the scumbag moves and this does a good job representing Corporate America and takeovers and you kind of like don’t understand how Tony loses how could someone a smart arst Tony lose power over his own company but then you realize oh he just gets he just narrow-minded and sidetracked by Iron Man Iron Man is the most important thing to him right but you know in in a more

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interesting comic world you could do more as a CEO of Stark you know you could do more as a super billionaire controlling these companies you could do more better worldwide than just Iron Man right hopefully this it’s I felt like it was a good ISS you good end I couldn’t get through the first five pages because I don’t understand and I blame the the the Ultimate Universe for this I don’t understand lowercase lettering like what are you doing like to me like it almost takes it okay it’s out of

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continuity like it’s like okay are you Ultimate Iron Man no you’re not you’re Iron Man I just don’t know what I don’t know what it is I don’t know what it is maybe in like diary or or like you know if it was a punch award Journal maybe sure but like I just don’t understand all of it I don’t understand all of it comics comics should be capitals um I like sometimes somebody some people uh like the letter on one of the comics I’m working on he’ll do all capitals but sometimes when it’s

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supposed to be a capital the capital letter will actually be a little Bolder or slightly bigger it’s kind of a neat look but it’s still all capitals yeah I like well I think that the art you know with with zni last week he drew the sound effect effects inside the art uh Hayden Sherman in absolute Wonder Woman there’s a part where she goes to kill snake and it says Yeet in it and I’m just like okay and you know that’s on the board like so I think there are some things where it can be really really

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cool I just uh I don’t know just it felt very Factory I just but the cover is so good I I forget who did the cover I think it was Yasmin poer did the cover the cover’s so good and then I was reinvested back in story right at the very end he starting to put stuff together and I’m like oh man like CU I want to see what that costume’s look it’s it’s like a very it’s a very like Mark 23 costume you know what I mean it’s just gonna be he has to basically because he’s very gaunt very weird take

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on Tony Stark yeah he’s well I want to say that that’s like that’s an obsessive scientist right he’s not gonna eat like it’s like so I kind of feel like that’s a bit more realistic you know that more in the line of a yep forgot his name who did the spruce goose created the playe this Bruce Goose that was a oh my God he he he became kind of a edit this Reus The Aviator Aviator yeah he he became a recluse and a germaphobe and he kind of but he also still wanted to focus on his work you know are you

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looking it up are you Googl yeah because I’m Howard Hughes Howard can’t yeah Howard Stark we’re morons Howard Stark there we go we did it we connected the dots that have always been there awesome um yeah I just I just really liked I just thought I just thought it was really really I I I I like that concept at the end I think like it got it took me a while to get into it like I want to I want to read Iron Man and I also think that the the problem with the Marvel universe is that it’s all these

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different sections I’ve lost the thread right so it was Iron Man and then the movie came out that it was fractions Iron Man for a while right then I went to Kier Gill entir for a little while right after that I kind of lost it I don’t know I know there’s been like five yeah danry Dugan the dance lot run didn’t work the Jerry dug didn’t really work no the cwell one kind of worked H’s really good one writers is like his Doom miniseries was really good yeah I he he’s doing he’s doing something I want

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to say he’s right now that that I’m looking forward to I know I I think he was doing some Star Trek stuff because he’s a big Star Trek fan but uh yeah but Iron Man yeah yeah I did catch up on all the um uncanny so I I wanted to reread three I read three and four together um that villain’s really scary I think Marquez is way I don’t know where Marquez is from like his art style he does something different with I like rogue’s hair he doesn’t have like the the the um the white in the front it’s like white

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it’s like white a little bit in the sides yeah yeah um and I like the scripting I think the scripting I think it’s nice I think the relationships fit I think rogue’s relationship with with uh Wolverine Wolverine the the basically like pre-apologize and tell Jubilee I had to go like sorry like I feel like they’re doing Wolverine the right way um and he’s really hurt in the last issue the LA the last page he’s really like it’s a really good looking Wolverine just like bloody and heral just like

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it’s calvar you know it’s probably it is it isal it’s more in that vein but but yeah I just I don’t know I think all the interpersonal I think all the relationships kind of work in that I think Gambit’s great in it and I think Rogue is excellent and rogue’s team Le she even said it at one point she’s pulling rank one point like yeah I’m team leader sorry I’m the voted team leader so I win um you know and X-Men’s X-Men had a fill in and that guy was was a netho Diaz like was pretty good like

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it was it wasn’t it was in the same X the new X-Men this week uh the Jed McKay it was it was very close to Stegman it was really close to Stegman and so I didn’t mind it I’m fine you know like and there’s also a guy who’s drawing Hulk who now this the issue of Hulk this week is not on the list but they both worked on Nick Klein and this other guy um did it and it’s like oh it’s very close it’s like I don’t mind that you know I think that that’s pretty good so so yeah if you can if you

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can format it up the right way I think it’s pretty good um are you are you preferring uncanny over regular over objectiv less X-Men uh yeah I am because I I don’t I guess the thing that I have most objection with is I I I feel like and it’s so dumb um but I mean it’s again it’s opinion on comic books but like I don’t know why Scott looks so young it’s just the way his like the way the mask he just looks too young for me you know I want him to be more of like the steward of like you

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know he’s he’s kind of the uncle I get it I get it I’m I like I think I like X-Men a little better but I’ve been following je M on Avengers so I like his writing style I kind of like what he does but on K’s right there like it’s it’s back and forth you know when I read each successive issue I’m like oh this really good so and that’s important first off I’m reading an X-Men comic just really good two of them yeah I’m reading two of them and I I haven’t read

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the I should try to read exceptional even though I just don’t care like I I don’t know I should try I’m trying to stick with all of them for a while you know see see you know who gets better yeah book those two books definitely shine and they go right to the top yeah I pretty much I mean that’s that’s fun to there the McKay was a little bit baggy with like talking about the um all the all the stuff like all the ccoa stuff and then I’m like just don’t talk about it just go out of it you know it’s

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it’s placing it and dating it just just go out of it and it’s got doing that a little bit more um image this week I did not I was trying to I did not not unfortunately and I’ll tell you why later in the another segment um I wanted to like get caught up I read the first six of void Rivals but you 13 came out is that new storyline 13’s going new yeah it’s not so much new it’s just a new ingredients being added to the mix you know the cover the cover doesn’t really spoil it just show it shows a new

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character you know okay lloy rivs has been solid I’m glad you’re up through issue six it sprinkles in you know what I when I talk to Kirkman last week and make it sound like I’m I’m friends with them I ran into him on the streets of New York and a costed him on the streets of New York that’s right a Kian on the streets of New York what am I doing here I don’t belong here um kirkman’s got rid of his accent the longer you know kman like the more Hollywood he sounds and less right right

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make moonshine our back let’s go to a Broadway show Kirkman will never listen to this he uh but what I love about voy Rivals is the sprinkly in of a season three of transformers season three of Transformers though the animation is mostly poorly done the story lines are really good and bring in a lot of new characters and they and that’s who’s been in void Rivals you know not spoiling anything but but void Rivals itself is fitting in nicely into the Transformers Ander John universe that

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that kirkman’s crafted with with Hasbro well you want them I think you you mentioned this before you want them to be the head Masters right basically or kind of them to be something yeah head Masters was my initial idea but they could be something else they could be they are something else well the comics had Headmasters were right they were that was like in continuity and they made this whole continuity of it that’s why it was confusing when watching the cartoon like oh the same thing I like I like the

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comics better the story in the comics is better it is better clearly but but you know what I kind of like the Japanese version better in the Japanese Headmasters cartoon they’re just tiny robots that make giant robot bodies right rather than humans squishing themselves into costumes and then they got to bend over in half and stick into the head of it you know I mean it’s a bad right idea or like hey I’m an alien that’s inside of a gun so you’re firing these incredible lasers and you’re just

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like hey I’m just in the gun just in the gun in the gun no I like it you gota go gota fold up fold up I thought yeah like oh what if I could fold like that I would have went out dating oh um H but but it was funny because in the comics the the nebulin or the nebuloni I forgot what they were at this moment no research they were like us they were just regular human tones of color but in the cartoon they were green and there was kind of the Native American hinge to them right right right yeah so but yeah

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you know it’d be CU and void rivs are two different alien races but neither one of those nebuloni if the one is like the ner tonians or something it’s close yeah it’s close I just remember being a kid and just being like this isn’t matching but I don’t care like I’m okay with it you know we different I always hated the comic of the cartoon were different like I preferred the cartoon but the cartoon people just stole the Marvel pitch and didn’t give Marvel credit and then they just kind of went

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their own way and hired new writers so when I read the comic I’m like this is all wrong but really the ICS what you know in the long run you know I still like the cartoon B but the comics are phenomenal I just wish they would have worked hand inand and given us more in I wish they would worked hand in hand so like what’s in the cartoon could also be displayed in the comic and work from different angles or right I don’t know but but that’s a case of sunbo which is like owned by Marvel right sunbo animation

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Transformers they were owned by the same company I think that own Marvel so you but they people like to work together in different uh offices you know yeah they don’t think it’s still the way you know I don’t like that James gone posted that crypto and then he posts the picture from um All-Star Superman just put just put the line in there just put that that was image was from that I don’t know to me he’s a little too free with his posts about stuff his lifts are to and listen I

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guess that that’s okay it’s just I wonder how close this is going to be to like All-Star Superman closer the better I don’t know I love I love All-Star Superman I love it I’m swimming in raw sewage I love it I love it okay so all right so so maybe by next week you’ll catch up on void Rivals yeah I’ll try try that and then oh I have a cat coming up hold on right um so we’re sad about local man 25 we finally got local man 25 yeah and it’s sad so it is sad because so they had what’s kind of crazy

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about it is so how many technical issues of local man are there because it’s 25 not even 25 like 16 or 17 if you include the two specials right the the the right gold looking cover and the B girl special right and then this kind of is is the is of images of tomorrow this is kind of like take technically the end um but yeah I guess it’s just it’s just the nature of um everyone’s got to go get work you know in a way yeah and if I don’t want to see someone else draw it but if it

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took someone else to come in and draw a major chunk of it to keep it going I’d be okay with that you know you know funny if what if Paul fry drw if Paul fry used to plus Squad 7 it’s not that different it’s a little different but you know but I do like the C backup I do like the cely like extreme style so I’d miss that you know that’s always been kind of it was a funny it was a funny backup it was actually a really funny backup it was a funny backup but then who did the did the pinup was it Brian

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Denham did the pinup Brian denam Brian denam awesome pinup and Brian Denham is most famous for drawing the Allan Moore written Viator versus badrock yeah and that was his first comic he’s like hey you want to come work for extreme yeah you can draw this Alan Moore comic what that’s well that’s in the in the vein of like there’s different alen Moors you know it’s like when I would talk about Garis I was like oh there’s the Avatar press gar is not the same as verar gar is not the same as like so

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it’s just like unfiltered you know when Warren Ellis did an avatar Book I’m like oh it’s just it’s rejected Concepts editors are yeah rejected this isn’t on else but a lot of his books are like just a version of Constantine Constantine Constantine on Constantine Al Mo says it time so I just gotta get in half of saying Constantine yeah gota work on that pretty good thanks he but if you all of his books like even planetary that’s kind of a version of Constantine you know Elijah

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snow yeah or gravel is a version of Constantine or he even the he had a woman Le character was it injection or what was a there was definitely needle in the title or something and like yeah injection like deby de Shelby yeah yeah just look like another version of the John Thomson time yeah so I just wanted to look at something here so so anyway local man all right so we did work like oh okay and then did you finish lo real quick just to finish up with loc man it was good kind of final issue it does take

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place about a year into the future and he does like local man’s still kind of shitty like in the issue before this woman rides into town this woman and her husband and her kid and the woman like kind of puts her hair back and and he gives her like directions or something and as she leaves guy guy’s like who’s that local man’s like I’m gonna find out next issue he’s like married to her like he stole that woman from her husband and the kid their kid is calling him daddy like that’s a total like holy

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crap yeah just a funny thing that like you know you pay attention you got yeah there’s um one of the girls is being released from prison and it’s inmate 41992 which is April 1992 when young blood number one came out so it was just little things like that like make it make it fun and I probably missed off because I wasn’t going through it with like a magnifying glass that’s just one that stood out to me yeah I wonder if they’ll do like a nice trade of everything Al together they just did a

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Ste just did a Revival compendium so I think that’s interesting I never read that you know because get TV show out of it right right yeah I hope those guys get paid you I hope so I like Revival Revival was really good especially the first 12 issues but Tim Tim is good did you read uh hack SL body bags no no I think C ell’s drawing that so I’m curious to see that because that was kind of his original was his original art gu yeah you Dre the first issue Hack Slash yeah it’s pretty good

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you know I I’d love to know how that kind of came about like is there a Jason Pearson estate there’s gotta be something there’s a Jason Pearson artist Edition that’s coming out and it’s a kickstar and there’s a ton of stuff in it where there’s like a whole practically like a whole extra series that never came out that they’re putting into this is it the kickstarter that Jason Pearson run that kind of because Jason for and they’re also doing something if you can improve there’s

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some discount on that so whoever’s run the new Kickstarter says if you improve that you have something to do with that he they will get a discount on this which I think is really cool that is cool it’s so heartbreaking like like I I missed out on that Kickstarter I totally would have backed that because body bags is just a phenomenally drawn Jason Pearson art always has he’s always impressed me since day one and I met him on time the show I’m like oh are you doing commissions he’s like I’m kind of

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booked up he goes but if you pay a lot I can put you towards the front of the line I can’t afford a lot but I wish his commissions are beautiful yeah just just do a Google search of like Jason Pearson commissions and you’re gonna be like amazed what was his what book did he do he did Young Blood strike file five yes because I have it’s literally on the back of a profit six profit six profit six Jason Pearson that was a good story he only did the first part I think the second part was drawn by Sam Lou I think

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Pearson couldn’t just maybe he started body back something yeah yeah who went on to be a DC director for animation yeah yeah I’m surprised how many animations there are like there’s so many I forget how many it’s like 40 50 I didn’t watch all of them but um I just think it’s it’s when I hear the number I’m always like amazed at how many there are yeah I tried to keep up but I just couldn’t much over family time with the kids oh stupid kids getting way rough that’s right so the

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other what the other person that’s I mean I would say C is a pretty pretty busy guy but like the other person that I saw because they had I think he wanted to say he almost had like three books this week he had Frankenstein um he wrote no Hunter which I don’t know if you read that but like the guy the guy who drew it nuts Jus o Vargas who draws like Michael Walsh Michael Walsh did the silver coin a couple years ago for every issue was it was almost like it was like a TV show it was like almost like an anthology I

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think there was a show called gun that failed uh but I think when that came out it was like literally you just follow who had has gone the neat thing about silvercoin was the artist came up with the idea and he hired writers to write a different almost like it was Anthology series I’m like wow that’s really Brave like that’s your idea and you’re hiring writers like usually it’s the writer who will hire different artists right get artist every issue like turtles turtles is Jason Aaron writing it but every

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issue is another fantastic artist that’s probably just friends with them you know yeah yeah the thing that’s confusing on this though like so the one that I read so I read no Hunter this week and it says in the corner and this is where I’m getting confused because Michael W Drew something else this week that was from so vertigo is coming back like we said and one of the one of the editors of of vertigo was was porn sack pitch and Cho I don’t know how to say that last name for a long time that was like

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the end of it but now that person’s doing a line called Horizon inside of image and then two weeks ago was it Terry Dodson one shot they’re all like Pilots right right and then this week was a Michael Walsh I think space thing and I’m like why are you putting another Michael Walsh book that he wrote like that looks kind of like that out in the same week and then in this one it has a sub subtitle here an Olympus Saga but then when you read it the guy gusa o Vargas must have either independent work

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at the end you can look at it they have like a QR code like you want to read more of his stuff go to this that stuff looked exactly like this and I’m like is that the same thing is that also the Olympus saga no okay I don’t know like that is that another case of H labeling something afterwards you know yeah I don’t know what what changed I think um Phil Kennedy Johnson’s book that he had for Black Label just switched it’s called like it they when they put the new trade out they changed

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the name of it to something else and I’m like okay and I don’t know I don’t know it was like the last God I think it was and then whatever it is now it’s something the fell something Chronicles and I’m like okay the r yeah so they end up changing it so but yeah but I I read the first issue of Frankenstein and I thought it was pretty great and then so I think the third one came out we want to wait until it’s all until that’s all done finishing that up so um all right so I I read I read the preview

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did the first issue come out for that Distillery book you said it was Brian stman oh missionary the missionary yeah issue came out okay because I know the preview was up online I I read the preview yeah no the whole issue came out it’s good it’s a very very Venom in a way because the guy does get possessed by a demon that’s not a spoiler that’s the point you know um and of course the demon it’s like he’s trying to fix his life but in like a weird way but he’s also a demon but he

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might be a good Demon so it’s it’s it’s a little it’s basic in ideas but the approach is fun and the Art’s fun like I’ve always enjoyed Jason Howard’s art you know um actually I like his style now better than you know like I read a sty sounding wolf man and I liked it but like when he did trees with war Els there was a Constantine character in that too kind of they weren’t the main character the main character was like a kid but like his his his style evolved during trees and then he brought that

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back you know he did a fill in issue on Transformers a couple weeks ago did we talk about that yeah the it was a beautiful issue yeah and uh yeah so this book’s really good Ryan stegman’s writing it because he’s actually you know he’s a pretty competent writer his that did you read his other image book what was it called No research anyone yeah now that was like the um the almost like Top Cat book right wasn’t that like a is like the Harry Potter grown up was that him segman or was that

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a bad this week missionary more coffee yeah the is pretty good Distillery is just doing a series of high quality books you know yeah I don’t know I mean I I tried to read the I read The Blood Brothers Blood Brothers brother something like that that was the um the Rizo rizo’s all painting it and stuff it’s gorgeous yeah it’s really yeah it’s really nice yeah and their books are all like magazine size so I might wait and see like when they do trades and stuff like I haven’t seen their trades yet

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it’s so nice when when a company really tries to put their all into something and uh I always love the story of like like Seaboard Atlas in the 70s try to do that they overpaid these guys and tried to put out really nice I think their paper was even better in the 80s it was Tundra I think Tundra ra Kevin Eastman’s company was really putting out high quality books and letting these creators kind of choose the format The Big Numbers Alan mois book with billson kevich is like a square magazine size

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square B and Distillery you know which which maybe it’s a little bit inspired by DC’s Black Label of making it slightly larger like I love odd-sized books I know some fans complain oh I can’t put them in like a box like dude they all magazine box you know just buy yeah I have a magazine Bo over there it’s craziness or put them on a bookshelf you know right these books these books are so nice they could be put on a bookshelf and Comics bookshelf yeah that’s that’s that’s my

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whole bookshelf in there that’s I don’t complain about different sizes it’s neat to do something different in this industry yeah you know what I have I have a and I think I think it came out this way too I rocketo by what’s it Espinosa and it’s like widescreen and same thing with Echo echoland was uh echoland was double echolands was um Jay’s Williams I thiri and that was like it would full it was a comic sideways it was like this size and then it folded out even further right so he would have

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these like it was like double Comics it was crazy now you read all the way through um and that was that’s a pretty cool book did you ever finish that did you read that yeah yeah I know I enjoyed it I should get that hard cover tempted to get the hard cover yeah you I think that came out recently I know he’s working on I know he’s working on a volume too for ra l e is really good it’s like he’s kind of using what he learned with Alan Moore in that book like there’s just it’s like a a little bit of pictopia you

01:25:39
ever read Alan Moore short story pictopia in pictopia that’s a phenomenal like eight page story in anything goes number two H okay okay definitely write that down which probably find that I could probably find that out in the wild you can you know what I mean yeah not a hard book to find anything goes around in dollar books dollar bins yeah number two um but yeah I enjoy e i I love the widescreen format when it’s used right like Marvel did a series of X-Men annuals one year when Grant marrison was

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doing new X-Men and they did it the same version the WID screen you know opening yeah it was uh LMA pranis U it was it was yeah so Distillery doing a good job right yep all right so you read the Godzilla I did the Masterpiece Theater number one by Tom shy we are a huge fan of Tom sholley and have been I’ve been since probably 20 2001 when he was when he when he had won the Zer 2000 yeah he won the Zer Grant yeah which was funny enough the turtle creators Eastman and L Eastman did Tundra to create

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highquality Comics lard made a grant Foundation Zer Grant to help new comic creators like uh especially when Comics had to be print I don’t I don’t know if they do it now as much but that was a really great award to win you won a couple thousand dollars so you could print your comic and Tom shley won and he gave us the myth of adus which is a very fourth world inspired Jack Kirby comic black and white nice covers well also what’s funny about this is this this is literally from the comic

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store I worked at so this one is cuz I ordered it I ordered I think like five to 10 copies of it right and and uh because I was like oh what’s this cover what is this you know because I was like it’s very Kirby inspired there’s an essay in the back so this is my original copy never sold this is one of the ones that like I I only have a handful I mean I have of course my starm manun there’s some there my cable run my starm I should figure out like what are my originals you know versus like what if I

01:27:50
sold like the Spider-Man’s I sold my originals now I bought it again you know mean but this is an original original like uh when I first started buying comics Spider-Man I would buy them wherever I could find them until I finally settled on a comic store yeah and some of my Spider-Mans like I was so obsessed with Mar Larson and McFarland artwork that I discovered that the direct Distributing com the comic store versions the direct Market versions had art in the UPC box so you let me exchange my new stand Spider-Man’s in

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the comic store that you managed or the ones because you’re like I don’t care change them out I took all the ones I took all the ones that had the art in the UPC box you’re like I’m who cares yeah yeah I have it crap I have it downstairs I know we talk about this I have to have to do a separate UPC box episode and pull our favorite upcs um because I we just I was in New York it was where were you Baltimore right so I’m looking through dollar boxes and there was a Detective Comics and it’s

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it’s either detective or Batman and it’s a brave fogal cover it’s an aaro aaro ior it has Joker and then in the quarter box it has a little red hood but the red Hood’s not in the book like and it was near killing joke right and we still have to kind of research that of like what came first like chicken or the egg like did like does right Joker who decided that joker was the Red Hood like was that an Al decision did he create that for killing Joker did that exist prior I don’t know know yeah I do

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not know um but yeah so just kind of just kind of fun yeah so the so having an original comic store this I know and then let me see if I’m gonna ask you this because I don’t know this is there four so I have this right which I didn’t look at that you so that’s the the Doom Battalion right right right uh I have prologue and then I have the Labyrinth is that everything or is there one more I almost feel like there’s one more that I’m missing me give me a second and I could probably

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but these these pretty much consistently so just looking at this this is 2000 so five issues through 2001 so that’s pretty good that’s all issues prologue let me see when prologue is prologue is came out I think the last which is kind of funny uh 2004 but this is 2008 Edition 2004 and the Doom none of these are reprints these are all new these are 2003 and then the Labyrinth it’s crazy right so it’s a doom Battalion 2009 then it’s a prologue then it’s the Labyrinth okay so

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I have all of them I have all the books right the last issue was well see he did put off Ash cans for like six and seven but I don’t know if they’re I think one of them collected one of them’s not he kept he kept going um what’s interesting is at one point MH Comics was going to publish myth of adiss and he redrew issue one like totally redrew it made it a little more image likee less dialogue you know because the the first issue was literally as first comic so this is in the m in the midst of

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doing godland for image with Joe Casey he he he redrew issue one and they kind of decided not to go with it Fact one of the issues actually has like Pinups and Eric Larson does a pin up in one of the uh issues five he does it’s in five yeah let’s this look at that how cool is that I want I want to see him color that all his pinup plus he got a Ron friend’s pinup Pat o Ron friends Ron friends Ron friends with Brett breeding inks and tones that’s pretty cool yeah that’s really good looking yeah I’ll take that

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yeah and then this is on the back cover so Chris MO the Chas War which is actually a really good Helix comic but then they have the in color on the back the back cover of prologue like six years later so what’s cool is Tom shy is in the midst of coloring this epic so you’re talking three trads three graphic novels those are three graphic novels and and ashs you know you’re talking 20 to 30 issues worth of comics he had he’s done for this storyline so he’s colored the first issue completely

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so just like 29 more to go I don’t he’s gonna I don’t know how he’s going to release it but I’m I’m always uh I do talk to him sometimes you’re on his patreon is on his patreon where shares a lot of St he is he is complete Comics that he has not published which he should get published you know he’s got a book called young Zeus where it’s kind of like an All-Star Superman but it’s Zeus as at like Superman age right this book uh he had done superpowers in the animal line the jway

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DC line young animal right and he did these backups in cave Carson which is like kind of the weirdest book to put these backups in they were two what were they four pages two pages but they were huge and uh when DC kind of fired him from that job for reasons unknown he like kind of he kind of he tried to continue the stories on his own but then he he morphed them into a book about like toys that come to life like the super power toys and he did a whole graphic novel one shot about that never released it that’s you can get is

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amazing you can get American Barbarian which is a original graphic novel beautiful you read that right yeah I read it well I read it on I guess that was a web comic first right wasn’t that online it was a web comic and then he put out can and then he redrew it for the graphic novel and it’s gorgeous right right right yeah I’ve only ever read it online okay he did a final frontier which is kind of like a oversiz annual of a book that’s really great you can get that can you get Satan Soldier which is

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a I was talking to him one time at SPX and I had H just Eric Larson had finished his Supreme run so I pitched a supreme story to lield and I was telling Tom shley about it he’s like what Eric larsson’s leaving I’m like yeah he he’s he wants to do an 80 page special and for you to draw a story in it he’s like oh he didn’t he didn’t tell me so then but he loved alen War Supreme run so much he went and pitched to Supreme to Rob lield but uh nothing ended up Happ with it for a while so he just went and

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changed it to Satan Soldier since it’s just a Superman archetype to begin with and he did series of like just handmade Ash cans mini comics of Satan Soldier he I don’t think he ever collected it it’s a little rough it’s a little rough compared to his other stuff but it’s really good yeah well I have these did you have these and you don’t have them anymore do you have the celestial editions no no I I did sell that our friend Walt owned the original art to that cover does he does he is it in his house

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somewhere he doesn’t have it now no he has it his his uninsured house oh my God God yeah this is nuts yeah godlands really cool look at the look at the uh that’s really fun how do I do this there we go look at that yeah so that Celestial Edition one two is insane looking look at that it’s gorgeous thing look at this thing my God it’s insane yeah and then three Z that’s a scary that’s scary oh there we go nice yeah so these are these are uh these are one of the ones like this and I have the this

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reminds me that I also have the glory uh complete in the same like format you know that’ll never I’ll never see sopie Sophie Campo I don’t love dust jackets on hard covers give me the art on the cover it just looks it feels better those books are tactile they’re they’re very they’re very well made and they look great in the collection and he you know his uh I think I think his Transformers versus GI Jo hard covers are kind of similar yeah I can’t that’s the thing is

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I don’t have that and it’s never they’re expensive aren’t they on eBay very expensive it’s like always 150 bucks like at the cheapest ever I can buy the trades the trades are okay but I know there’s extra stuff probably in the in the hard cover and there is no scan of the or R nothing so it’s like uh but then yeah so I have GoBots too GoBots is excellent a good GoBots is really good yeah go think about the Transformer versus GI Joe um probably his biggest hit that he’s had in his career yeah he

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wanted to have Rob leld draw annual like he wanted to kind of lay it out have lield pencil it and then he was gonna ink it but like he the timing didn’t work out so he just ends up doing himself and ends up being the Transformers versus GI Joe like a it’s like a meta Michael What if Michael Bay had made a movie of Tom shley Transformers vers Y and it’s weird but it’s awesome the movie the adaptation it’s like col col like it’s meta and it’s awesome yeah I might have been one of the SP spxs I

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don’t know if it might have been 20201 and I think I talked to him but he didn’t really talk and I was I before he was more he’s a bit more social now yeah but uh and I just don’t even remember I know me a talk to him and then this came out last year which is which I did like that’s the Jack Kirby well I guess yeah this was this was he literally took panels from uh from this uh what was it crash Comics I want to say that sound right crash Comics like one two and three and they had this this you know star

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Warriors and and then so he took panels from that and kind of reinterpreted it into this like kind of like twocc color almost like charcoal book you know yeah it’s really cool and this doesn’t include all the you know the um the Stanley and the Jack Kirby and I guess I wonder if there’ll be a Trilogy that I mean there I guess Trilogy is really what would he do after that I don’t know you know he did Jack Kirby he’s uh I think he did a story in a when Larson did the next issue project which was a

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basically he took a 40s public domain comic like fantastic Comics like say fantastic Comics ended at number 25 well here’s fantastic Comics number 26 so it’s all the characters that had been in fantastic Comics done by different creators you have Mike Al doing a story Tom shley doing a story Larson doing a story he did three of these books and they are all worth getting because first off they’re Golden Age size but then he put them on like a a heavier paper a heavier cover there it’s a really a

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product of beauty all three issues fantastic Comics crack Comics the other one on right now Silver Streak is it Silver Streak is that right Silver Streak in one of them yeah and that’s that’s Paul Grist Paul Grist Drew Drew that one that’s right yeah that’s something that yeah I don’t know those are one of the ones that you know like they just probably would never there’s no Market we’re the market that collects it we’ll collect it we’ll collect it we’ll collect it yeah yeah Tom did a

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story H herb tripy did a story because herb tripy loved drawing World War II Jets so he does a story about I think it’s Captain battle oh right right and uh Captain battle I don’t you remember he’s a public domain character but had an eye patch so when all the Marvel movies were hitting this uh one of those shitty Asylum type movie companies that make movies for Sci-fi channel they did a captain battle movie and he doesn’t have powers but all of a sudden last like the last part of the story he gets the

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costume and the eye patch is part of the costume he doesn’t need the eye patch he just decides to wear it because it’s part of the costume he gets Captain battle that’s awesome yeah I like the um the aard one the a one was like gorgeous he does Stardust yeah is it Joe keing did Joe keing write that I think so yeah yeah it’s a beautiful story I feel like he didn’t really get Stardust in the story but but it’s beautiful looking it’s good it’s still a good story yeah

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we really really saw what you think of the go well Godzilla I guess because now it’s going to go into Dracula T like every issue is g to be in yes in a certain timeline right so the first issue is Gatsby Great Gatsby and I haven’t I watched the movie in high school 30 years ago the original version not the Leonardo DiCaprio Toby McGuire one you saw both of them right I about them yeah did you read the book no did you tell people you read the book because you watch the movie of course like that’s how we did it that’s very

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South J I don’t know it’s probably everywhere you know probably read The Cliff Notes maybe the original the original movie is pretty close I assume the the newer one’s fine but yeah letzy it’s a wacky idea because Tom shley had been trying to do a Godzilla comic and on the on the patreon he he actually gave us like a hundred pages of wacky like he has a sketch style but his sketch style is telling the whole story you know right right and like at one point there’s a guy who gets

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the powers of a guy he’s basically Godzilla man he’s like a dude who looks like Spider-Man’s a lizard but he’s Godzilla there’s like a Ultram man’s in it it’s just a wacky story that would have been awesome so too kind of said no to that but then they said yes to this you said yes to this that’s what I mean but see I think idw’s got a good relationship with tow because they have they have one now that’s like a skate it’s I think it’s called it’s called

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skater die it’s like literally a bunch of skateboarders that are just running away from God and there’s stuff going on but there’s like three or four scapers and the art style is crazy it’s really cool like I mean there IDW is really interesting and that they have these licenses and they kind of just get maneuver um you know the dc1 like when we talked about that that the DC you know that Justice League versus God that’s that’s not Godzilla you know that’s that’s the uh uh uh that’s the

01:42:02
American Godzilla that’s the current American Godzilla you know so um I don’t know if you saw that they’re doing minus one minus color next week in theaters for right you know I’m I’m a big fan of all these things coming out in just in theaters and even the other day when I was looking they had Back to Future 3 I think one of the days I was looking to go out and then they had um they had a Gundam move movie so I went to the movies last Wednesday because in like a live action kind of movie yeah oh no no

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it was a cartoon yeah it was like a newer cartoon but I just like that that these theaters have these extra things you know so I saw the um the the the partial Lego Movie which I guess you can just give enough money you can license a movie and make it in the Lego style maybe hire the animators I’m not sure yeah but I saw piece piece by piece which was the um uh Fel story that he wanted to do a documentary but he wanted it to be in the Lego style and I I think when I got there I think I took a

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picture of all the guys put in the group chat I’m like okay got a theater myself it’s Wednesday I bought it through Bango app and it’s $5 off uh and that’s a cheap night anyway so I went to the the AMC up here was like $7 you know because there was five5 hours off in my in my app so I’m like okay you know so that was fun but it got really packed I was surprised there there must have been 4050 I feel like that was more packed than Joker 2 the weekend before which is a big movie right but this movie was a

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lot of people and and what was cool about that movie is that you don’t know how much he’s touched you don’t know how much forell has done soest thing he wrote the the McDonald’s I’m loving it jingle you talk like I didn’t know that yeah we know it but he so that that’s him you know so I mean that’s that was pretty cool but yeah so but Godzilla is coming back out for a couple weeks as minus one and I saw that when it came out I’ll probably I’ll I’ll probably do the same thing you know

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because I I really feel that my as I’m getting older my ad attention span is just horrible and that’s why I think I like having you know some like having access to like the Marvel and DC app because I can just kind of go into different things and read different things because something will hit me and I want to read that right you know I got into a kick after the Hellboy movie um I want to just read so I’m rereading bprd and just the the characters from and it’s it’s such a you know I don’t

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want it anywhere else I feel like I really like this most recent Hellboy movie and they put up watch it I really like it I think it’s really fun and there’s actually a part in it where he’s being explained something and I feel like it’s a little meta because they put it on the one like real on Instagram where she’s explaining something he’s like H the lore y like he’s just kind of like is and I’m just like and then she gives him the finger and I’m like yeah okay that’s right that’s right um but

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yeah I think IDW so IDW because you think about it like right now so they have a bunch of different Godzillas right they have a couple stokos that is they’re they’re really good the the half century war is excellent I have oversized hard cover for that um but this is really cool and this is like I think five or six issues so I’m just waiting for the eventual big trade yes please um yeah nice hard cover that matches other hard covers you know he’s he’s a great person to follow as far as

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getting hard cover collections like he He does care he cares about how Comics are produced and how they’re collected afterwards yeah I like I like the the Stanley design I like the Jack Kirby design um we even talk about you did those autobiographies of that or biographies they’re not Auto they’re you know I want to say the stanlee one it is really sad but it also goes through him being like a bit of like the Changed History and a little bit of like a hypocrite and him being difficult so I

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don’t think it’s a I I don’t but I also think it’s still a little bit more it seems a little more fair yeah yeah EXA there you go yeah exactly we just part of the one part of the reason that we always talk about we want to do like this podcast is that we just we still we’re still a very Pro industry you know as much as the industry is different than when we were younger we’re still pro- industry we’re still Pro Nostalgia we’re so Pro like put this out or do this differently or we like

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the way that this is you know yeah even like they did a page break in like absolute Wonder Woman this week where it was like coming out of the out of the page it was sideways and it was Theory and I’m like this is cool this is Comics like that’s really fun you know yeah like that that opening of Spider-Man we never saw Spider-Man that close we never saw Spider-Man like that that close to the camera mcfarling Spiderman correct yeah number one you never saw because that’s it was literally a level up it

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was literally from like we on the camera’s here now the camera’s here so it was just like it’s it’s really something so even to have all of these different things you know to have you know this Godzilla is different than the skate Godzilla that I talked about is different from the the very serious uh half century war from stoko you know like just just like even when even last summer you know we saw I saw Godzilla minus one three times in like two weeks and then I saw the minus one

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minus color like a we week after that but it’s and then I saw the new Godzilla twice the Godzilla Kong which is just different but it’s literally because it’s literally by accident you know because they had like a very serious Godzilla and they have like a you know someone else got to want to do this and they just stuff he Cur he talks to one of them he talks to Angus and he says that like screw them or he curses he says those or something like he actually is talking they have a subtitle

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and it’s like so the the weirdness and him fighting with Jet Jaguar that’s always with him on his back even what’s behind me the versus gi. Joe this costume comes apart a couple times like all the costumes kind of come apart it’s kind of nuts um so just like just it’s kind of cool but even even to the next book that we want to talk about is the to the turtle so we have they’re still doing some of the Sophie Campbell stuff over here right they’re still doing uh but they have the Jason Aaron stuff over

01:48:04
here you know Jason Aaron stuff is still in the world of H Sophie gambles like this is takes place every so it’s not a right it’s not a reboot you know it’s a it’s a refresh and I always yeah and that’s what they should do that’s what they should there’s enough history in that you know don’t discount what happened before right what happened before garbage like you can discount qu Stacy sleeping with uh Norman osbor let’s not I I liked it um Nick Spencer kind of said oh that

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never happen like they like ruin the end Nick Spencer Spider-Man storyline that’s right right right he’s like no that never like Harry Osborne’s like that never happened we were just that’s in your head or something like it was something stupid and I’m like that’s that’s better you thanks for a bandaid that no one no one even knows that about that right right but that was just for whoever still reading just still reading this and this is kind of bother and you still just throw it out this is still Bo it

01:48:57
was it was always a bad idea but I think I think they don’t know what to do I think even with that but they don’t really know what to do with Spider-Man they’ve been through all the different things they’re not gonna they said they’re not gonna marry him again but then you have ultimate and ultimate’s more popular probably than Amazing Spider-Man it’s better written right now you know I still don’t love all the structure like you have you know you had a whole issue with u you know Uncle Ben

01:49:21
and like J Joon and Jameson like a bath house yeah like a whole issue of it I’m like I don’t need 20 pages of that I’m good guess what this this last issue you get 20 pages of that Uncle van and J Jo right 20 more you know it’s good it’s it’s readable I mean it’s just good but it is funny that like a it’s such a weird idea for a comic to like we don’t need action in a comic and sometimes you don’t but when you’re spending like five dollar I don’t know

01:49:49
is it five five or $ four dollar I forget yeah I think I think you need the is a 747 or like you need I think you need it is 757 because this is just in the middle yeah 20 like I just I just think that I like that better just watching I’m just watching a an investigative movie at this at this point and it’s it’s good do I just want more I don’t know do I want a better balance I don’t know I think that you know Jason Aaron I think does a good this is so this is the best issue I

01:50:20
think of the turtle so far so we had the prologue and then one two three so this is Leonardo on an island you learn literally about turtles now Turtles like he’s in he’s in India it’s so weird though like but like like impartial genocide they throw bodies into the oceans because they girlfriend tell your girlfriend you didn’t know about India right called it an island well it seems like he’s because it almost feels like he’s on a desert island in the beginning at first and

01:50:50
then you realize he’s not you know because Gabus Island well Turtle so but you find out all these like kind of strange things and it’s very meditative and then it rains but this is Cliff Chang X DC vertigo editor you know you should work your new knowledge into a conversation with her and totally impress her like someh like don’t bring up the turtles like don’t bring up the ninch turtles you can bring up the other Turtles hey did you know you know this is a yeah she’ll she’ll

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she’ll know I don’t she knows I don’t read any text anything anything but if I learn anything like from a comic book or podcast do you hear this podcast do you hear this thing I can’t believe I didn’t know this she didn’t know that I’m like no like okay but I was in when I was in college uh taking a a world Civ class uh the teacher really knowledgeable proper uh Jewish teacher and we learned a lot from him it was really eye opening we were talking about an Egypt and Osiris

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you know and how Osiris was like killed and resurrected and you know and he goes if you can tell me the next thing or whatever you know I’ll give you some extra credit points and I went up and I told him the next thing he go oh that’s amazing where you learned that from and I’m like a comic by alen Moore he’s like I’m not giving you the points see purposely I’m like but I knew it but the fact that it was from alen mors 1963 you know right right right yeah you’re not a little hor the yeah the

01:52:10
Horse comic yeah this is the best this is the best one I think up and down so far but now they’re kind of all together and it also became was very serious which is Leonardo’s very serious in the last like six Pages they’re all together and they’re all fighting and it’s like the best like it’s kind of like it’s all it’s all quippy and it’s like it’s the best Trope let’s separate them they do their own thing then they come it’s like the Beatles they all separate it they do

01:52:37
their own thing they come back yeah yeah I almost feel like oh that breaks my heart but when you say that because like there’s literally did you watch all the get back thing on Disney plus the like hour yeah I I want to I’ve seen some stuff that’s amazing there’s an interview later on that uh Paul wish he knew because there’s a conversation where I think George is talking to Ringo or George talking to one of the engineers and George is like well I have a bunch of songs I only get

01:53:06
one song in album I have a bunch of songs I should go do an album and then we can come back and they weren’t really about that life so but Paul because you can see how kind of like I’m the leader of the Beats who was that was that uh was that Paul rdd as as as John Lennon or yeah no Jack Black is uh in in in Ward but but there’s a there’s a Paul interview where he’s like if I would have seen that I could have had a conversation with George and decide to like not break up the Beatles that we

01:53:37
all go do our things and then come back you know like that would be cool yeah and that’s not what happened you know but George was like 23 it was kind of nuts like George was really young he was writing these huge songs but even when he went out when George went out on tour I mean George quits in the middle of the of the documentary and they’re like what do we do we call Eric we call Eric Clapton like you’re GNA just they’re going to replace him for they only have they have studio time so like we need to

01:54:03
record something so it’s a better move to give yourself a little bit of fresh air I know uh Green Day Green every member of Green Day has worked for other bands and they come back together and do green day you know I often wonder if Kurt had live for Nirvana would Dave have gone off done his food fighter project and then come back for the next Nirvana album you know Kurt was working on something with Michael styp from R you know like they they had other things to do whether Kurt would have gone done a solo album Maybe you know

01:54:31
the members The System of the Down they they’ve yet to come back to do a new album but they came back and did two songs a couple years ago they’re incredible songs you know it’s uh you know people need their breathing room you know even and even image kind of broke up and then they kind of came back together yeah gota get image United who trying to do that trying to pull that together Jim vardi okay please do that that’s F I talked to Eric Larson about it last week because Eric Larson they him and Rob

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like they talk at one point Rob created a young blood like group called Echo 92 which was just a blatantly you know kind of an F you to the guy who owned the rights to Young Blood like here’s thato 92 and that’s what Bo from last blood is he’s he’s the shaft Echo that’s right there was a point they were gonna do image United with that team with the with the young blood knockoff team like that was the thought Eric Larson had oh okay well maybe they can finish it but now they can finish it liel said he

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doesn’t care if it’s him and Larson because he was gonna replace Young Blood like just bringing like the characters he did own like Brigade and blood strike and blood wolf like just finish image United any way possible but now you can finish it the proper way you just have to kick mcfarling and sylvestri in the butt to just right come on well Valentino is like semi-retired or retired you know so yeah but he would probably proba do it for Rob yeah yeah yeah they’re they’re Buds and that he he

01:55:58
just has to do pencils and even if he just comes in and does a layout you know he’ll come in and either life Lo inkum or get Chance wolf chance wolf do it yeah yep because Chance wolf was kind of half the team for the majority of like almost like 50 issues of of Shadow Hawk over time you know probably good amount right especially especially in the beginning you know he’s he’s so important to the the the foundation of Image Comics you know doing the logos and such and who did the Young Blood logo well that was

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old I feel like lield himself must have did it because he had the same logo when he was G to publish under Mega back in 1987 right right right you know that’s funny that’s what liel should do he should take those because he’s got 20 Pages done from that young blood 1987 he should make a fact simil edition of a comic that never happened he could publish it in black and white like Megaton was going to do he should get like Eric Larson to do those retro colors for like a special and then he did have it colored

01:56:59
by um Matt yakie he colored life pencil because they’re just pencil but the cover he did for that in 1987’s ink by Jerry orwe like Jerry orway had an established career and liel goes to him not having a career yet he’s like oh can you I guess he was he was friends with them he’s like can you uh ink this cover for me he’s like sure and then Jerry’s like he gives me this cover it’s got like 30 characters on it he but I said yes he was in life with such a nice guy such a nice kid I just

01:57:27
did it for him right right but I think I think that’s Tim deson was supposed to Ink young blood for Megaton you know DZ n yeah he did all the Ron Lim X mutants good line life should hire him to do it like say retro ink this right right he could do like three different versions of that book you know and some on whatnot we buy him yeah some on whatnot 20 20 copies at a time you know so you saw I had to work yesterday I was happy to make that money while you saw Venom I saw Venom 3 how did it how did it

01:58:08
go better than Joker uh is it is it better than Madam web yes it’s better than Madam Webb because you just I like Tom Hardy you know he’s just he’s just a wacky character it’s not this has never by venom has never been really Venom he was close to it in the first one like um the director was also the co-writer because I went into this think Andy Circus directed it I just didn’t I thought he was directing it and then he’s not right right right but so it’s it’s a watchable movie

01:58:44
there’s fun stuff they do fun stuff with the costumes you know it’s not spoiler but you know other symbiotes end up getting used but they really don’t have like a a strong strong villain like they have these Xeno fages I forget if they were in the comic or not they’re kind of like alien they look kind of they look like a cross between aliens and brood you know okay right um live had a character named scorn in his xhorse miniseries it’s a big alien looking monster and kind of

01:59:13
they kind of look like that but they’re all minions of null null’s in the beginning null’s at the end you know null’s coming it’s very Thanos at the end of Avengers right right right anybody is he is he who’s No like is there is an actor oh Andy Circus oh is it okay so I’m like yeah seen it well that’s incredible casting you can’t tell it’s Andy Circus I mean you can tell a little bit but like he’s all make uped up and then the post credit scene with him like you know

01:59:45
the mid- credit scene is like kind of goofy looking like they just did it last week it’s very it’s a very halfhazard movie it doesn’t seem like there’s no there’s no import to it there’s no doesn’t add to a bigger story other than null there’s no like other Sony things in it you know and it really could be and and it ends and you’re like like all right there’s no more Venom I guess you know maybe there there there’s a post yeah I heard it’s very open it’s

02:00:12
a very open-ended you know and that’s the fight that supposedly like Spider-Man 4 has is that that you know that they’re fighting over that and they keep throwing the script out you know so yeah because should be a Sony thing but maybe not a Marvel thing like Sony’s got all these weird movies like Madam web and Craven and and morbius and like I like to consider them all in the Andrew garfi Universe I feel like that’s the dark sty spiderverse right right you know keep keep Garfield separate from

02:00:43
Maguire separate from Tom Holland with the exception of these crossovers like if you I don’t know I don’t know what they’re doing I don’t know what they’re doing I they know what they’re doing yeah speaking of Garfield did did you see yeah two things way three things this week he was on chicken shop date and he just flirted with the hosts which is pretty funny and then he did something for New York Times where he read like he read a he read a letter that someone wrote to I think it was maybe like a 19

02:01:14
World War II letter whatever and he’s like crying and had to stop in the middle of reading it and that’s kind of somewhat viral um but but he was on talk about his mom dying to Elmo did you see that no I did it oh my God but like it’s it’s interesting it got recut into something else on Instagram you can you can s you can see it as is but then someone put it to like a relationship that’s not no longer there and it’s just weird it’s like it’s weird I’m like well uh but

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yeah him talking about grief to Elmo and I’m watching I’m just like oh man like it’s it was it was really something but yeah it’s harsh but you know it’s a it’s a it’s a good kids got to learn to deal with grief my my you know between my brother and my my dad like we their grandparents like they they’ve lost so much and so young and I I was fortunate as a kid to not lose a lot of people you know right right so it it’s good to have something like for younger kids to deal with that or or

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prepare to deal with that you know nobody wants to think about it but it’s good to have the the tools necessary to help you g yeah I don’t think it gets yeah I just don’t think it gets any easier it doesn’t get any easier um all right so let’s go back we’ll bring it back to Venom so do you believe so the post credit wello the mid credit I took a I took a screenshot of it so this is who they think they than Donnie Kates Clayton crane Ron Garney Lara H Hama kinsky Ryan leville Ron Lim GRE

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lzc fan big fan uh clay McLoud Chaplan uh Duncan yeah I’m not sure um Duncan relo Evan skick Ryan Stegman um G vianova who is I think does the like the cartoony Venom one with Spider-Man and then patch zercher Patrick zercher uh Conan artist uh but it has up top Venom created by Todd McFarland on the lead Todd McFarland and David melini and that’s not true really it should be vice versa I mean Dave you barely have to give it yeah you barely have to give Tom McFarland like credit on that like to me

02:03:43
what you give Tom McFarland credit for is making Venom the most popular Spider-Man villain for 20 years because if he wasn’t drawn that book would have just been another sin eater like nobody cares about the sin eater no I mean like and he was a character created a couple years prior to that but even 300 he doesn’t look that menacing he only looks menacing in 314 or when did he come back 315 with a hyper yeah 315 17 yeah but then I would even I would even but then the evolution of it going

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to uh lson and then the big tongue and then lson you know larsson’s Amazing Spider-Man sold better than mcfarling like the sales on that comic right the momentum of it I think is there was no choice there was no choice in in that you know in that in that progression um but that’s how that Spider-Man book you I’m actually kind of surprised Venom didn’t show up in that but then he left you know what I mean he was he did Ghost Rider morbius and then you know well he was supposed to that was if

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mcfarling stuck around on Spider-Man he had four story lines he wanted to tell which was lizard Wolverine Venom and Green Goblin now the Venom would have looked awesome by that point because you’re talking about 1990 991 mcfarling how weird would that have looked right but the Green Goblin story always interests me the most because McFarlin wanted to have Harry Osborne Norman’s dead Norman was supposed to stay dead but the idea of Harry Osborne Being Green Goblin was awesome because that’s

02:05:12
Peter Parker’s best friend that’s his best friend he has everything the world he’s Rich he knows his secret identity kind of off and on depending on his mental state so really Harry Osborne as a Spider-Man villain is so much better than bringing back Norman from the dead like when they brought back Norman from the dead I felt like that was a mistake you should have raised Harry and kept Norman dead and that’s what mcfarley wanted to do mcfarley had a great like he said that in an interview basically

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and I’m like that’s genius mcfarley that’s the best I don’t know if he could have wrote it as good as his idea is you know what I mean like MC caring’s writing level is only so far but his ideas were really solid right I would have loved to have SE seen that I would love to have seen his his his new Venom story you know a modern you know the last Venom story mcfarling was was up for drawing the Venom miniseries lethal protector but he he oped it out he oped it out of everything he was supposed to

02:06:06
do a wolverine cyber story for Marvel comic presents but she opt out out of that which is awesome because we got Sam Keith right right right that’s what made Sam Keith but that was when him and Peter David were they were nice to each other who mcfarling yeah no I love I love that Peter D set him a Hulk issue mcfarley is like this is too much dialogue so he just drew he took half of the script and made it a full comic just so he could kind of showcase his artwork a little more so I can’t imagine pet how

02:06:35
pissed Marvel or Peter David was but mcfarling might have been right like it’s a harsh way to do it but like we people love art at Comics like as much as we love the writing and writing really keeps us in there it’s the art that we we just love it so farling was in a weird way he was right you know going against the grain and like just taking half that script and spreading it out a little bit smart move wasn’t that what basically Scott lell got that with like Wildcats one right like he’s got a

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bunch of pages back with tanks on it yeah he goes I did not write seven pages or 12 pages of Spartan fighting a tank you know right right who’s who’s oh John Cassidy that book was originally got to be offer to John Cathy the wild cats yeah that that volume of wild cats but they chose Travis shereé which didn’t last long but in the end worked out better for us because we got planetary yeah and then we got the joeey uh Sean Phillips which is Wildcats and then Wildcats 3.0 with Dustin wi which

02:07:35
is also so good that’s my favorite wild stuff it’s like Jim and then Joe Casey’s Wildcat yeah yeah so so yeah so I don’t agree with that lineup David molini and Tom MC Bron I it to me I don’t know like but I think that’s well melini’s even said in different essays and interviews and stuff like he already had it mapped out into this this and this doesn’t matter who was drawing it’s just whoever’s coming through you know what I mean like it’s not that’s kind of how the melinis

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went as the situation of it he’s almost Mark Grunwald when I think of Mark Grunwald I don’t think it’s like oh it’s gonna go from this to this to to to Paul Neri to Ron limb to Rick livens to you know like it’s not to Dave Hoover like it’s not like it’s Mark grunewald through so I’m not really not caring about who the originator of americop and Jack Flag and Hoover Dave Hoover right I forget I forget the woman patriotic like all of a sudden you know and I like those

02:08:38
characters Jack Flag he was like grifter the flag over his face yeah I like that story I like that I had a subscription of that back when Warren Ellis was doing Thunderbolts it’s like I think he put Jack Flag in it I’m like yeah yeah Jack Flag dude Jack Flag got the grifter like bandana on his face yeah waser oh boy that’s something that’s something so all right we’re gonna talk about penguin and agath though just they’re good they’re solid kind yeah um this week’s AG was

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particularly good kind of a a witches you know Wizard of Oz and uh it was I I don’t like to spoil TV shows that are just a week all but they it’s been really good and penguin’s been really and the thing about agath is it opens up a character to the greater Marvel Universe you know yeah the kid the kid everyone knows the kid is that that’s not sport everyone knows he’s a he’s Wiccan Billy yeah he’s W Billy Maxim off right um penguin they did surprised it surprised me um was it Johnny needy or something like

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that there was they he got of which was a surprise and then she changed yeah but she changed her name like to Gigante like she’s like yeah the falcones are dead and that’s it and that’s me and I’m like wow you know but I like that scene where she puts all the money on the table Yeah the guy’s like oh and the boss was sitting there you can’t you can’t do that he’s like yeah well my family made a lot of money off you that a lot of this is your money they just start taking

02:10:16
it socialism and work like we make the money we give it to you like it’s not so much socialism as is in Europe they have an idea where the more money the company makes the employees get a larger cut and that’s what she’s doing and it works and now people are going to work for her and I love that the money is covered in blood some of the money is just sitting in oh yeah the blood of the Johnny V or whatever like even even that’s what that’s what’s kind of crazy is her entire like her entire drug Empire is

02:10:44
from the drug she took in Arkham she’s putting on the street like it’s it’s kind of nuts like there this a drugs they used I still can’t get over that Arkham oh my God that’s like the AR is better what’s that the yeah the drug company started the the opioid epidemic by giving it you know prescribing it oh right people need more of it if became of Black Market thing and that’s what they’re doing here here here’s a medicine that is working in Arkham it’s working too well in Arkham right right

02:11:16
right people were doing shitty things to get it you have at the end you have like the penguin kind of I I I I am surprised at how much I like this thing and we talked about this earlier in the week too is I don’t know it’s not it’s not an abandoned Zoo it should be an abandoned Zoo where the penguins are still there that’s what yeah I mean it still do an underground thing it’s all an underground like railroad type of thing but I guess I guess the thing that we talked about was

02:11:45
like I just I can’t believe that when I look at Colin Farrell it’s not Colin farell what’s his last L just so thirsty I need to cold water cold water um I just don’t it’s it’s it’s it’s kind of unbelievable and I think it’s better that there’s so much makeup on him that he’s unrecognizable I think it probably makes him act differently makes him act like just everything his whole movement is is club foot like it’s all of it’s so cool and I think that when I what I what

02:12:20
did I say it’s something about um what was the the Joseph Gordon lit movie uh looper looper yeah yeah so looper looper the whole movie you’re going like I know that’s just Gordon Lev but he looks like Tom you know he looks like uh brr Willis and I just don’t don’t know like like your brain’s trying to put them two together most of the movie and it and you’re just like you’re lost not canny Val you’re lost in it or like Tom Hanks in that one wowski Brothers movie where he’s Korean and

02:12:48
they just put like oh over I like Cloud but it’s just weird to see him like try to be Korean and I’m like I don’t like this yeah yeah no and I don’t like I don’t like doing characters everyone had the same thing so every Caucasian person playing an Asian person it was the exact same had the heavy the heavy makeup yeah yeah but they didn’t well didn’t look any different everyone it was exactly the same it’s like they had the same headpiece instead of trying to make look a little different like

02:13:18
people actually look yeah yeah yeah your just brain your brain doesn’t work with it you know no but this movie doesn’t work with it I never think he’s Colin Perell I never see it it never slips in you know they show him afterwards in a featurette where he’s just talking about it and he’s just in the got the headband and hair’s coming out yeah it’s also so weird how goodl looking he is and you’re just like you play the ugliest this is ugly guy who is this guy he’s hard to

02:13:42
look at is he in this show in this show right right right it’s hard he’s hard it’s hard he’s hard to look at it’s difficult but I like I like the relationship with his mom is great like I just think I just think it all kind of works everything’s I wonder if that came out of Gotham because the Gotham show penguin had a good relationship with his mom it’s not yeah there’s nothing there’s a couple penguin stories that I’ve read but I don’t really remember

02:14:05
anything about like any of this like family history you know it’s awesome in the penguin show the the guy who plays Penguin on Gotham was really good I forget his name right now he a really good penguin and the actress who played his mom was really good it’s uh come on she played loa’s wife on Taxi uh you know her oh Carol King Carol she’s phenomenal so she her character dies on Gotham and then he finds his real dad and it’s a rich guy and it’s it’s Paul ruin P Herman Peter Herman

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plays penguin’s dad character which is a hilarious callback because Peter because he played his penguin dad and the Batman Returns where they drop him in a river like Moses and raised by Penguins gets raised by Penguins raed by Wolves but Paul Rubin was so cool he was only on a couple episodes of Gotham but he was really good that’s why I don’t think I knew that I think I did know it but I don’t think I’ve ever I never seen clips of it so um rest in peace Paul Rubin but yeah

02:15:10
tough um and then so you got caught up on I so we have two recommends we recommended to stuff to each other I said I gave up on shrinking and I watched I didn’t read some Comics last night I was supposed to read Because I watched eight episodes of shrinking I don’t know all the way up I’m all the way up no because I want to say that the first season at 12 I think it’s 12 okay and but I only watch like up to four so I watched four to 12 and then I guess the first three of this season oh wow you

02:15:39
CAU up dude I’m all caught up and that’s the thing is like I had nothing going on which is uh I guess okay but like I’m just sitting there and I’m like it just go like next episode I’m like I don’t even know what time it is like so like I just like it literally was from like like 7 to like 10:30 or something like that I don’t know I don’t know but I know what you were saying with the Brett Goldstein situation that is crazy that’s very difficult shaved shaved R Goldstein

02:16:05
which is better um because like it doesn’t seem like him he’s also not playing Roy Kent yeah he’s not playing never seen him no no so won’t spoil the situation of it but but you’re right I was like I was like what are you talking about because I thought when you said that I know the one guy was going to go visit his friend from the Army I thought that’s who he was going to be but I’m like he’s older than that he wouldn’t be that gu Army buddy that doesn’t make any

02:16:30
sense so like that’s what I kept thinking was gonna happen I like how’s he showing up how’s he showing up um but yeah just everyone is everyone’s good but the problem it’s not exactly a problem but I feel like it’s it’s all Bill Lawrence it’s it’s the same he did it in in rubs it’s just like it’s the same same type of like you get this much sentimental and then you have to have like two jokes out you got to have two jokes out and you’re out of the scene

02:16:59
yes like you get to it and you’re like one two and then you’re out sometimes the over complimenting takes me out of a a line like she’ll be in the middle saying something like important and then like oh cute shoes and then she’ll finish what she saying it’s important right they’re always buing each other up oh nice legs on you old woman like a little something little something yeah was pretty cool she’s in that like yeah great CS or something they said like oh really yeah but I wasn’t

02:17:25
expecting him to go across the country and I think we probably are have we probably are more difficult watching this because like you know we both have daughters and we don’t know exactly if we’re communicating right we don’t know and that’s the way I feel like I feel like Jason seag all the time where I’m standing in the hallway I’m like did I is that good bad like I just I just I felt like that a lot I’m watching I’m like oh my God I know what that is I know what that is

02:17:49
yeah you have over teeth I younger team and it’s like it’s a little harder every year yeah yeah good luck yeah I’ll try to give you advice but I don’t know what I’m doing like I don’t know you know I learn from your mistakes that’s what I learn but you do wrong I’m not gonna do that but guess what like every every kid’s different so you know your mistakes maybe you know not mine not it’s something man but no that was something and then so you caught up on

02:18:19
the high potential which is I didn’t catch up just two episodes in um man people like shows where somebody’s an expert you know like she’s the expert people watch house because he’s the expert people watch you know I mean like there’s something interesting about someone who could just do their job you know yeah but what I like about this is I feel like a lot of those shows are very like I feel like even house is somewhat mean-spirited just because of his personality Warr El’s character he’s

02:18:49
Constantine that’s right he’s got that’s pretty that’s very close but he it’s that can be really tiring with him just kind of crapping on people she doesn’t crap on anybody you know and they’re starting to you’ll see they’ll start they’re starting to move other characters around some of the side characters which which works and I know look I know and there’s some there is a comfort in this like all right open up somebody dies we watch someone die right

02:19:13
and then like it’s like I get it like I know and I knew it from the first episode and if if Caitlyn Olson wasn’t in I’d be like I don’t care about it why would I watch the show right you know and but I watch it I’m like okay I’ll try it and I’m like um I kind of like all the pieces of it you know and speaking of Scrubs the the Judy was it Julie Reyes who was on Scrubs is the chief of police and then there’s the extra overarching storyline and same thing and I told you this there where

02:19:40
she’s co-parenting the baby which is the baby’s six months old I think the sun right that’s right yeah but like they’re not they’re they’re operating in the kitchen together as co-parents and they’re not like will they won’t they there’s not yeah there’s not a will they won’t they they’re done but this this is how it works and she’s smart enough she’s so smart like she knows how to make it work and he’s I guess heart strong enough to make it

02:20:06
work I’m not I’m not as far as you are into it but I really enjoy I enjoy Caitlyn Olson’s performance like when she did the show when she did the show to Mick the character I gotta watch that I never watch that yeah it starts off very similar to her character on it’s always sunny but obiously you know it gets she gets better she gets more attached to her her nieces and nephews that she’s watching um right right but this show starts off she’s already just a totally different character than it’s

02:20:30
always character D sweet D sweet D I showed Sophia yesterday the where she’s like if we’re the same out there then we are here why don’t we just treat each other the same and then they’re like you’re so pretentious she’s like shut the up D like I just love like I love that scene where like d we’re just talking I don’t know what you’re doing and they’re so mean to her and I’m just like oh like I feel like I know what that that that that table is I’ve been

02:20:58
at that table before so yeah um but really fun yeah it’s fun to have this this like good like like looking forward to to TV you know I’m getting used to that which is nice I enjoy I’m enjoying I’m enjoying Superman and Lois right now penguin’s good yeah I saw a preview of that I did I guess I didn’t know that the one guy that I really liked in Walking Dead is Luther I think I did know that the guy who played Abraham yeah he’s good he’s a scary Luther cuz he’s just he looks scary man yeah so I

02:21:28
need to but it’s so hard for me because then like like completion is OCD Mark I have to go and watch like probably watch five episodes first five episodes It’s probably it so I know I have to watch like you know one two three guess I could have it on the background arrow and Flash hooked me into the CW Universe real hard in the beginning because they were so good in the beginning yeah but I’m that guy who I last season one is ridiculous yeah what’s crazy about Flash season one is I’m surprised because I

02:21:54
watched The Flash season after the Flash movie I needed to have like almost like a pet cleanser so I came home and I watched FL the the final episode of season one last episode which is the best episode yeah that where stad dies St die that episode no that’s when that’s when he goes and waves away like that’s when he goes to see his mom like tries to save his mom he’s going back in time and then another flashes there and then I think it happens in a different part and then it gets waved away or something um and yeah

02:22:29
or I think one of I forget which which flashes anyway but he talks to his mom and it’s like ridiculous like it’s like it’s insane yeah it’s so well done yeah it’s done okay in the movie I understand it but like it’s just you know but but apparently like even the tears like I think the the the corridor guys did a thing where they showed that scene is he didn’t cry in that scene so what’s his name Ezra Miller Band Ezra Miller he didn’t cry in that scene those are those are those are CGI teers they

02:22:59
they like dissected the scene they’re like he’s not that’s he’s not even there like a lot of the stuff like is so weird the way that they shoot these movies they’re not even been the same place he’s saying he’s saying the lines instead of acting the lines yeah he’s just saying it yeah so I don’t know it just it’s a bummer it’s a bummer so but yeah I need to I need to kind of catch into that um but that first season of but even then even going to the last

02:23:22
episode you have like Robbie and you have you basically have Firestorm and like you have a lot of elements in the like and I was like wasn’t this season two my brain like put them later they accelerated that like in first season first season they have a lot of things why is so good but maybe that’s why the later Seasons suffer because they they go away from right being a flash show and it becomes like the cast show everyone everyone has powers I didn’t like that’s where everyone just everyone

02:23:48
just like Arrow oh you’re a friend of mine you’re vigilan now you’re oh you’re my lawyer just be a vigilante you’re a Vigilant now you know you’re now a vigilante well that’s the one thing it was that they never did that they that was the rumor they were gonna make him like almost like the John Stewart that was like that seemed to be the way they were gonna do that right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and that never happened he’s great he’s such a good character too and

02:24:12
weren’t they supposed to do a show like an Argus show yeah where he was supposed to train new Heroes and it just didn’t happen I don’t know if that’s because of uh zlov taken over or they just wanted to get away from the CW Show so they could focus on the DC euu and now the DCU you know I think they just wanted to stop doing the the TV shows which which which I’m fine with because they kind of meandered at the end you know I still like their crisis on Earth’s crossover is really good their crossovers were

02:24:41
always good yeah crisis one in particular has a phenomenal amount of cameos and that’s pretty well done the only Cameo I didn’t get is I really wanted Justin heartley to come back Green Arrow to see that green arrow that would have been a cool Cameo that you know was already at that point he was already doing this as us right right right well we had we had um uh what I I think my favorite cameo in that was just well it wasn’t really cam it was almost like a co-star it was just having Brandon Ralph as like

02:25:12
Kingdom K Superman like good like he yeah how big he is like and the the body shape of him it’s just nuts like that that’s the best yeah that was like can we get him back can we give him another chance when when Henry caval pissed off water Brothers I’m like not against Brandon Ralph coming back he got he got short changed yeah I wonder like I mean that’s why like I just I don’t know oh do you know that and I just I meant to meant to put this in here but like there’s a there’s an

02:25:46
Avengers Lego I just think about Lego again with dman it’s it’s called like Avengers demolition something I didn’t yeah I didn’t watch it though but it’s like did you see it did you watch the show no I I did not I um but like Dem man’s got his own like one shot like show it’s like what the heck like and all of them I think will fredle is d man which is pretty cool which is pretty funny yeah so that works I’ll give it a chance I think I watch I watch almost everything I mean I just

02:26:16
told you I watched every CW Show through to fruition even watch that crappy Gotham Knights I got through that oh yeah I can’t do do that yeah completist I don’t I don’t not watch a show yeah like that’s what thing I like I’m gonna commit to the Venom thing I’m not gonna I’m good and I’m never gonna watch Venom so um but I’m always trying to but again we’re always trying to figure out like what I’m gonna watch this week what I’m gonna have in the background or whatever

02:26:41
so maybe I’ll have to go through is that the CW guy um skim yeah yeah yeah and uh he he was set to do the Green Lantern show which started to get cast it do you ever hearing Hayden Christensen was supposed to play Allen Scott remember that rumor no yeah that was that was so but yeah then they they wiped off that Green Lantern show to do the new green L show which is I guess a True Detective is take you know yeah I don’t know I’m not I’m I’m so not looking forward to that like I just don’t care I

02:27:18
don’t know I don’t know we we we don’t look forward to it but then like you know I wasn’t looking forward to penguin and it’s like yeah I wasn’t looking forward to Last of Us right do Last of Us season two okay so like you us you know so yeah if you do it if you do it right again the same thing with penguin show I’m just like you told me two years ago I’m like yeah there’s gonna be a penguin show and you’re gonna love it I’m like okay sure yeah on HBO sure yeah

02:27:39
on HBO yeah I don’t think so yeah it’s gonna be a nightmare so um but they gonna go back to like the shop is like I really like the captain Blan like layout but I did buy literally I felt very very like in the store because they were you know one of the clerks was talking up absolutely I literally was like you know what I’m just gonna buy a copy buy a physical copy of that yeah I would trade it later so it was nice to have a physical copy of that but I got so my my read this weekend and I and I think I texted you

02:28:11
about it and I think he read it the is the Dracula yes guess look good right which is better which is the dark course and this is going to be annual I guess so this came out earlier in the year through the kickstarter this is 30 BS through Dark Horse um really big pages are big um I can’t show that page um but just like ridiculous All I’m gonna give this to my dad uh to read because it is it is the origin of Dracula it is what Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones yeah really gross stuff forget Kelly Jones ined

02:28:48
himself did in himself yeah last couple years been thinking himself it looks the most that’s how you get the most Kelly Jones let him make himself this book is great this book is dark this is an Argin of Dracula I’ve never seen it is well thought out the art is so like when he designs a creature it is just unique yeah horrifying yes so it happens in like this format they got little flaps which is nice you know I listen to them because now they’re kickstarting the second book and and is that when the

02:29:21
brides so there’s like an issue of like whole like the brides is just the whole second and this is probably 100 Pages something like that yeah but like just just really cool and I’m actually kind of mad I didn’t get this in hard cover you could only get the hard covers and Kickstarter and now I’m like wow but I do like this I mean to me I feel like this is this is a good just to have it in the size is really good yeah and Jose Jose V ruia one one of the best col yeah that’s you lettered it robly

02:29:53
lettered it but just like yeah there’s a creature there like this nuts it is it’s gorgeous yeah just like yeah but this was this was this was much better than I expect I mean I expect it to be good but I feel like there’s a bigger collaboration and it’s interesting they’re gonna so it’s basically like four years it’s taking them about a year to draw it right they’re coming out every they’re coming out every summer but then the they’re going to come out every October next

02:30:21
like three years it’s four four books the kickstarter will come out in the summer and the Dark Horse version will come out before Halloween that’s a good move yeah and it’s really you know it it’s something you and I had discussions before about like I’m glad they’re doing a version to dark war like the kickstarter is for the hardcore fans let’s get this thing published let’s get this thing funded you guys get it first you guys get a special edition a nice hard cover and then it’s like all right

02:30:48
but for the masses let’s let’s give them the trade which is still just trade um because there’s a point where like if you do a Kickstarter that’s funded you can make good money on it but then you only have like 20000 copies going out or 300 or you know something like that but through Dark Horse you got you could potentially have like five to 10,000 copies going out it could be an evergreen book which this book should be could be you know keep this book in every year they put out the new issue

02:31:13
bring the bring the old one back in print you know until you decide to collect it allinone gorgeous uh 400 page Onis you know I’d rather just I like the I like the I like everything about this Edition so I’m happy to buy it like this you know I’m happy to buy it but I was thinking and then there’s apparently like there’s you can only get the Matt Wagner variant I didn’t even I don’t even want to look at it I don’t want to look at it like that’s that’s I guess I

02:31:37
would I guess that’s the other thing if they did a library Edition I may do something there I I may do that if they do a library uh like Library editions ah like the Hellboy Library editions they’re gorgeous they’re clothy type Covers Little yeah that’s it they’re B with my cats though uh I have the first I have the first one signed by mola your white cat loves those books just oh is this is this black felt let me just rub it all lay on it yeah let me just lay on it um so yeah I was really happy to

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happy to see that and again I was happy to pay for it you know like in full like I I you know I was like I’m gonna buy this at the comic book store and give the com great helps the store dark course helps Wagner and Jones yeah so good so again because I don’t exactly have like an LCS where I live so it’s it’s more of a situation where where I am where am I and I’m only buying very specific things you know we have weird issues like comic store is not getting new Comics anymore that’s a weird yeah

02:32:36
South Jersey is pretty rough right now like just like it it’s I think the industry that’s or they would share it I knew a couple stores that they would share accounts you know and then go to the other store and get their handful of these because they have minimums a lot of these guys just have minimums and they can’t afford the minimums on this so that’s difficult you know so that’s why I was hoping that you know like even these stores they still had about six copies of absolute Wonder Woman which

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you know and I I heard that didn’t sell as fast as Batman but still sold out pretty much everywhere same thing with Batman I I don’t even understand how B absolute Batman sold out it’s confusing to me but it comes to that mindset of like are they going to buy 500 600 copies they might not have the capital to buy like you know mean like they might not have it to do this you know these stores might not be running on any type of profit margin so um but no I was happy to I mean again but that’s what I

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mean is like this is a very good you know and again you have the spot matting on the on the logo and the and the blood you know so like and again just having this big bigger format I guess he’s drawn on different color oh my God this is stupid like yeah just like just ridiculous May read this again I mean just like just top form and then again have the freedom of that and I get to draw that take four years to draw this you know and the second one apparently is doing better than the first one because they

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were on word balloon a couple days ago second yeah the second one’s doing better than the first one which pretty cool they still have some hard covers at the first one if you w through the kickstarter you can still go on the old one I guess or something I’m not sure but yeah I don’t know I mean it’s it’s a the the market of that is pretty interesting but yeah I don’t know but it just basically frees up Kelly Jones where you can just draw this for four years yeah I think he’s a fast artist I feel like

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he can really knock stuff out so so at least at least he’s still doing stuff for DC I still like keep doing if you could do both do both you know doing he’s doing Halloween variants I don’t know if you seen them with like I see them they’re they’re gorgeous because he’s who else do you hire you know yeah Kyle Hots you can k i I love KY Hots too we love kyot if you can ever find it he did this book about hell and it’s very Christian like hell is real it’s not fake like it’s this is you’re really

02:34:51
going to burn hell it’s taking everything about hell and just making it a literal you’re going there but it’s gorgeous like I don’t know that was just a single comic oh well trade out I would put it on the on there with I have the Golden Plates collection Golden Plates collection yeah the mic it is it’s impossible it’s an impossible read being a Mormon it’s tough it’s tough Mike aard so Mike book though so I have to have it so I have it I know and I’m just like okay it’s one it’s just

02:35:26
it’s a tough one I wonder if he still believe does he still believe it like he wrote it like it’s literal like Angels Coming to America sh morai or l or just like all these you know I don’t know I’m Not Gonna Knock anyone’s religion but it just seems like the more modern a religion is the less believable it is like right I don’t know like Christians believe in something that’s hardcore 2,000 years ago and I’m like I don’t know 2000 years ago maybe God was here like I don’t know was here

02:35:54
right if I was God I would du a hole he dug a hole and put plates in it he and he we shouldn’t be mocking at Mark I know but it’s something it’s something well I think the whole thing with this just like in general like deities I think there was a Richie JY quote that I really like where he was on stepen coar and stepen coar was saying like well how can you be an atheist and he’s like okay he’s like well you it’s like there’s 6,000 deities right and he’s like and

02:36:20
you are telling me that that I disagree you disagree with 5,999 you like won and for me you’re asking me to just like one and I don’t like none I like no zero of 6,000 like so what do you why are you mad at me you’re mad like you he was kind of just saying like you guys are somewhat you know judgy he’s like is you’re being you having a major judgment on me for not liking any because I don’t like yours you know like there’s so it was just really something he’s I like

02:36:52
consider it they’re all different Paths of the same Mountain somehow like if if there is a God like we don’t know his name is it Jehovah is it Emmanuel is it l you know Yahweh is it Yahweh is it you know is it J L Ralph great great Ralph which is offshoot ofro a crown right um no that’s but see like to me like even explaining I I said this to my mom she stared at me like that was crazy like I was saying like look if you take out we turning into Pete Holmes right now you like I am yeah

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but if you take out like so if you do the Ten Commandments right you take out the two God Gody ones like don’t believe God you take that one out like it’s not that different than than what other gods were there the majority of them if God’s like hey don’t believe in other gods I’m like there’s other gods you brought it up what are you doing why’d you bring that up you know weird intro it’s like uh number one that’s the number one they GNA come back later in the story it’s like when you

02:37:56
show a gun in the First Act that gun’s gonna show back up again later third act it’s a third act third act third act other God yeah venom does that they they clearly show these two machines that dump AET on they’re trying to get rid of Area 51 so they’re just burning everything with AET I’m like oh I guess that’s how they at the end with or to quote to quote the guard in Batman Forever it’s boiling acid it’s boiling acid CU you got to heat it up make it thanks for putting that in there

02:38:25
thanks for putting that in there I didn’t know did too face heat that acid up that’s what I want to know like there like boil that that acid is not hot enough like it already destroys metal but if it’s hotter it destroys the metal quicker how many two faces have how many two faces have we seen so that Two-Face origin literally is on like a TV yes it’s like which had an angle that there’s no way there’s a camera there next to Harvey Dent with the guy running at the camera like throwing assd also

02:38:54
weird when acid hits his face the paper is not covering it completely so you should have a weird more burn instead of this perfectly you know um I don’t know like you had to have Harvey Den in the The Joker 2 movie and you don’t even really see the mangled part like you it’s kind of just he was like why you have Harvey D there at all you’re not gonna do this if you catch it you catch it if you don’t you don’t what’s the mo I think the most brutal one I think the most

02:39:22
uncomfortable one is of course the the Nolan one the Nolan one where they deface him they like they take off because we see because again for uh you know makeup right it’s it’s a mangled addition right yes so like in this they can like well now we have you know we can digitize them out we can digitize it out so it’s like a skull and what’s also really gross is that like they literally have like you know Linens next to him they have all this like blood and grossness next to his face it’s like oh like you know what

02:39:56
I mean like make it even worse well always weird because he has the one like Mars Attacks alien eye like yeah littley yeah well what what’s so weird about that is that you kind of thought that Aaron eart would blow up after that movie and it did not like you know it just didn’t what he do Frankenstein future Frankenstein guy right was that him yeah Frankenstein I Frankenstein that’s waso we should do we should do a Frankenstein we should do like a you know if we do an all Dracula you know we

02:40:26
could do like an all Frankenstein episode where are we getting are we getting a uh speaking of echolands didn’t he do a yeah J Williams is doing a a somewhere coming out this week I hope so it’s image through image so it’s like oh I don’t know yeah but that’s what’s so crazy is that you have Universal monsters Draco that came out last year Martin Simmons J the tenian you have this Kelly Jones coming out you have another Dracula that I have we have Dracula from uh magnola I over there I

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have three copies of it right I have the tops foil cover I have the diamond edition which is basically all the issues just kind of wrapped around they’re exactly the same with the paper inserts and stuff like it’s oh like that like that diamond oh is it diamond the diamond diamond yeah it was a diamond retailer so like they basically just just got tops to send them before issues and then they just put a cover around it they did the same thing with young blood right they just took put a new put a cover on it it’s

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like shitty but like the trading cards are in there the backups are upside down so you’re just constantly oh my God that’s so fun the pit stor is in there the shadow hul they just took Young Blood one through four just glued them all together right what’s Young Blood 2 is that profit yeah profit profit awesome Brahma punch I can’t find it oh yeah the two page brma punch is that uh Brian Murray colors yeah well well it shot up in value because of a profit movie like people went out

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as is that crazy young blood two hot book young blood two so I guess talking about that we’ll just lead into what I the the final thing is that the book I got this week yeah so this is like kind of the this isn’t even so the what not’s a whole other animal whatnot is a whole other animal it is it is like eBay live where you just go on there and you sell your stuff and most people sell signatures because I think that’s less tax heavy that’s why when you go to Convention you’re not buying a

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photograph from a celebrity you’re buying a signature and it’s it’s less taxy than like doing or like when they do take a picture with you you’re not giving them something physical so it’s not tax as H it’s a it’s a weird thing oh okay the lifei like I said he had made a ripoff Young Blood team called Echo 92 I think technically it’s Echo Squadron 92 I don’t know they were going to be clones of young blood it was just he never finished it but what he he thought up

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instead was well let me do a story telling the end of the extreme Universe like this is my Dark Knight of extreme minus Young Blood old man the old man stuff old man so when you see the cover battlestone who’s already an old man he I think he fought in World War II he’s got the beard this is lethal from from Young Blood which was I guess he separated her early enough to like still keep the rights to her so there’s no young blood in this you got Prophet old man Prophet Prophet Jump Around future uh it’s a lot

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of profit in this issue these two pages I don’t know who ined them is it too Ed too I think ink these two pages the detail interesting is ridiculous like that that guy was the um he was the Leno Francis you um inor for a long time yeah did Wolverine and X-Men really like really fine really fine lines on this stuff does he live here does Day live here or is he Philippines I think that’s I think that’s where Francis he lives too I thought he yeah I think I think you’re right you know how does he get that

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though like as he there’s a there’s a second anchor named Stephen Rex seedler who who are these guys chance wolf did the first one stepen Rex seedler guy you know he might have been doing the in on those pages because he’s also doing the manga interpretation or the manga okay and what that is if Fel is doing these books again all great tones and manga and neat stuff so anyway it’s a good story set the future I can’t I don’t want to ruin anything go get but he sells them whatnot they’re a little pricey but

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there’s not a lot of them so what you’re getting is a book that like won’t be available in stores and he’ll probably collect them and now that he’s got the rights to Young Blood back the next issue of last blood will probably say something about that I’m thinking but if L kicking heartart he’s writing it and drawing it he inks up it and he gets the other guys to help him make it who’s coloring that is that the same guy’s coloring the Deadpool team up I’m not positive this is colored by two

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people uh Jay David Ramos and Juan Rodriguez Juan Rodriguez I know he did the first one rainow I know rainbow I think did this cover cover yeah he’s always got I mean listen the the colorist on on the um Deadpool team Ops like crazy so good that one so good what I love I mean he’s it’s always he’s always picked the right people he has an ey for colorist anchors you know the pancers he’s found have all have all like they might have started off like he could see a diamond in the rough you

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know I’m surprised there’s that many there’s there’s two different CS two different anchors there not chance wolf chance wolf did the first one or no chance wolf did Marvel team up yeah the reason there’s two anchors is some of the stuff in it is older like some of the profit pages I think it was going to be a book called profit 50 or profit 2020 or something he was G to release a couple years ago but I I don’t know if he did more pages for it or just opted to use those pages in the story which is

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fine if you have Pages laying around use them you know he’s got a couple pages that Echo 92 you know what use them you know he he he I think LEL gets excited sometimes and moves on to the next project sometimes a little too quickly you know and then fans are like ah I wanted to see that oh I wanted to see that yeah Young Blood Young Blood year one I always wanted to see that was never happen right he did a bastardized version of it that just was not really good he didn’t draw which is the whole

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point young year one was supposed to be drawn by Lao written by Buc but I don’t know if buek was gonna be able to write for LEL you know what I mean like Jim shooter was gonna write a young blood story and it didn’t end up happening because lield loves Jim shooter Avengers like his favorite Avengers is written by you know Jim shooter but like could Jim shooter have written a 90s comic for lifel that’s kind of the point like if he plotted something LEL drew it and shooter dialogued it I think that’s a

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possibility you know doing a Marvel style you could work with live Bel but I think writing a full script is hard for people of the 90s like don’t give a full script to lield don’t give a full script to Larson I don’t think Jeff Johns gave Jim Lee a full script for Justice League because when Jim Lee stopped doing Justice League after you know D DC New 52 it got better like he was working with Ivan Ry I think he was doing full script but I think with Jim Lee I think Jim Lee was drawing more from Jeff John’s plots

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it didn’t it didn’t flow as good right right just a fan Theory just to you know yeah I think the rhythms of I think like yeah you got to find the right Partners in it you know like I think when I think of Jeff John’s now like I think of the way that he works with the same people who work Ivan Rees and yeah fok I want to try and I want to try and get Rook Exodus down because Rook Exodus is off until like next year so this last isue until until next year here so I think now I can read the the preview through

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six I’ll try to do that for next week okay you know so I’m trying to see you got anything on the on the stack that you’re going to read this week anything stack movies that’s a good question you know I don’t I don’t know till I know I I want to watch creep showell with my daughters they haven’t seen the original creep showell try to get that in before Halloween and then try to catch up on a High uh high potential high potential yeah high potential try to catch up on that yeah the only thing that I did this

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week was I went through and a lot of people were putting up remastered versions of like Mario Baba stuff so I’m I might go back into like like weird 70s like almost like exploitation schlock like Barbarella so I have a folder that I literally just put in but I put I put substance in there too because the substance since this year was just insane but the love witch was out in 16 that was really kill baby kill is a Mario Bob I going to try and watch that but in this folder I have like danger diabolic from 68 right um

02:49:02
galaxina which I’ve never seen um there was another one in here that was Z1 which is the love Factor here that was 69 and that’s like uh uh like another like Barbarella esque so I might try to watch some of some of those and I might see there’s a there’s a a good Instagram called stard days 80 and they showed Clips yesterday i’ never seen this but there was a Indian Batman did you ever see the Indian Batman with him dancing and stuff he’s dancing like yes yes I have dance the whole seen the whole

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movie yeah I gotta see and a lot of stuff on even with this a lot of stuff’s on just on YouTube like I think like kill baby kill which is Mary Baba Italian that’s up on YouTube like some stuff just straight up on YouTube which is kind of cool you know some stuff’s a little harder to find but one thing the Holy Grail that I can’t find is the oily Maniac which is a really weird it’s almost like it’s almost like a mutant like like a and that was a Japanese from like I think

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early late 70s early 80s I saw a preview of it on YouTube I’m like oh my god what the heck’s that and I can’t find it can’t find that and then so that’s that’s what I’m trying to find I’m trying to find oily Maniac which is sounds kind of gross my wife my wife was watching the Uglies it didn’t it didn’t draw like I was drawn in for a little bit but it didn’t end up wanting to stick through it you know right I don’t know if you heard anything about

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it or not you know just didn’t enough yeah yeah but I forget who did that yeah but that’s something but even like Basket Case or the early uh uh the really early early early schlock uh Peter Jackson ones meet the feebles and all that Dead Alive yeah Dead Alive one of the grossest scenes in history yeah there’s some pretty have you seen it pretty bad yeah yeah custard scene is that the scene well I think I think the scene in Dead Alive that I think is the grossest is like the it’s

02:50:57
like the lawn mower he’s like like it’s just that lawn is so ridiculous it’s no longer gross it’s just like yeah Ry like scene you’ve ever seen in another movie yeah the scene where the falls into the custard and then the woman yeah I can’t believe just imagine that like I think the zombie virus that movie started from like a rat monkey or something it’s like a a monkey rat hybrid but like and when they do when Peter Jackson does King Kong inside the ship is like that name

02:51:31
of that rat monkey like in one in the cargo in the hole it’s so weird that yeah I want to say that there’s always a story that when new line signed him for the uh Lord of the Rings movie like after that someone like brought in one of those like Dead Alive or something like and they were showing like we gave this guy like a billion like are you crazy what happened you know but The Frighteners has some stuff in The Frighteners is fro you know that’s Lord of the Rings there’s because the the way the those

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ghost move it’s like the rates you know the ring rates he um my history teacher’s brother was play one of like the his friend goost like the nerdy one with the glasses that was my like Junior High history teacher brother and uh I think his name is like Ben F or something and he was in the uh the Dark Shadows remake with Ben Cross maybe it wasn’t and uh he’s like anyone watches Dark Shadows and I’m like yeah I watched it because I love he goes all right extra credit I’m like yes I’ll keep

02:52:26
watching Dark Shadows the Remake because I like the original 6s soap opera as a kid oh yeah that would be good to watch I think that’s that’s long it is I watch a long time as a kid I was a kid watching that good yeah I like all that stuff I think that stuff’s fun you know like just like just how ridiculous yeah maybe Dark Shadows maybe I’ll rotate that in this week I don’t know I got to find something that like detroiters I’m almost done I’m almost done the first season like detroiters are started

02:52:56
watching with Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson which is great that’s really fun you you’ll enjoy that but yeah I’m G to try to get into some stuff this week we’ll see watch what we do in the shadows last season the the first three episodes are up that oh okay I think America dad might be coming back soon that show once it left Fox got better as a cartoon oh okay go was that on hul TBS oh okay T right right right okay yeah the show left Fox and got got better um there’s just some crazy episodes that show they

02:53:29
just do whatever they want and Seth mcfarling Seth mcfarling are we getting new Orville isn’t that insane did you watch the Orville no no I think I tried to watch the first EP I to me it’s weird like it’s like not parody like it’s it’s like it’s it’s kind of strange I went in expecting Seth McFarland airplane level humor right and it’s funny is but then like as the show continues you just end up loving the characters and then you’re like this is 100% Love Letter to Next

02:54:00
Generation like right then you get to the second season and you’re like oh no this is just a really good show and then you get to the third season and every episode’s like an hour and a half hour and 20 and you’re like each episode is like a mini movie and you’re like this show has no right to be this good but it is right they’re getting season four or or we don’t know they’re doing they’re doing something we just don’t know what it is yet oh okay whether it’s a season 4 or

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or a movie or two you know right right right but better than it should be so thumbs up there so what else we got anything else before we wrap it up I that’s it we’re closing on three hours we did it again we’re 253 we can’t not do it for three hours you she’d be so sore no no woman wants that there’s no woman who’s like oh let’s it for three hours like y yeah yeah got five minutes got five minutes Bud if that I don’t need that what am I doing for the other four

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cuddling all right well we got to work on so this week we got to work on email we gotta work on I gotta get I’m G to try and work up some Ty a logo this week you got the Instagram Instagram so we’ll put up the the profit cover and we’ll put up yeah yeah yeah I found a picture of a Brian and my American man you know what it was when when lield was doing Heroes Reborn doing Captain America and then he went and created awesome when him and Marvel got the an argument over Marvel trying to be in cheap on him so

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he left of his own of coure started awesome then he did fighting American but before he was fighting American he was GNA do agent America and he just like he he kind of kept changing like he took a Captain America drawing repurposed it to be agent America and then he repur it again to be fighting American so Brian and I were like let’s do American man and we were just going to use that same pose which which we kind of did in this image I just sent you it’s just a it’s just a parody the guy still ridiculous

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do you see it the I go go the because the whole point was like people were mad because he put a eagle across his head so he went put like full eagle on his chest like like like a flag on flag for ears and don’t trle me snake across his junk so stupid but like it just made us laugh yeah no that’s awesome and America all the way on the shield yeah America all the way down across the top on a different version across the top we put North like North America like so people know which America we’re talking about

02:56:36
my God American man no that’s good yeah but that’s but I even remember saying that at the time when so yeah so live felt basically was going to go and do the it was the back end so that’s what so listen so so so you mean to tell me that Marvel was so cheap at that time they couldn’t do like they couldn’t do a contract more than six issues they did that contract they brought those guys over to do six no the option to go to 12 wrong no the option was you have to always stay above the sales level for our contract

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to stay in play and like the sales might have went down but they went down to such a ridiculously high level like they’re still selling better than all the other Marvel Comics at the time but like Marvel went into bankruptcy so they used that as an excuse to renegotiate and L was like no I I promised my people because he was bringing stepen plat in he was bringing in you know Ian Churchill on Avengers like I promis him x amount of money I’m not gonna pay him less like because you guys got cheap and the stupid thing is

02:57:31
Marvel Comics never really suffered everyone’s always like Marvel went bankrupt Marvel went bankrupt yeah because the owner of Marvel was buying toy companies and sticker companies and card companies right the comic company itself those sales may have dipped the comic company was still always solid you know it’s it’s always there’s always been the excuse oh comics you know they imploded in the 90s no they did they never Comics never imploded right right you know you were there you were literally there

02:57:59
selling coms and did they ever falter your Uncanny X-Men still selling 100 copies every month your Spider-Man for selling yeah it was always the same spawn always sold the same we always had you know 30 people extra who come in the shop to buy spawn who are not comic book fans yeah I’m like you guys can you buy anything else see it’s funny I see stores now they’ll have like sodas and and I don’t know why we didn’t do that like sodas and like they had you know not allowed to sell

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food maybe the at the mall and they prob like comic they a come from that store that nobody ever came in that store no no that’s we never tell people Mark mad is a comic book store in a mall a very popular Mall in South Jersey yeah like you had Cherry Hill Mall was one mall which maybe is like one of the first malls in the United States and then you had Mall which is where we Liv we grew up in depford New Jersey um and you end up managing that store in the mall and then I ended up shopping at that store

02:58:57
at the mall and so you you were privy to and then I ended up delivering for UPS to that store in the mall you know and we realiz that that we we didn’t want to wait for Comics then we had held and then everyone started doing that every every retailer you’re like well does that we can just have it addressed there H and then I’ll just bring them ship it to the UPS building and pick it up but since I worked at UPS building I’m like Mark I’m just going to bring you your Comics I’m done work right but

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other retailers started doing that no one did that until you started we started doing that yeah and then every retailer then we would just run in you’d run into every retailer and then you’re like all right you’re techically an employee now here’s your employee discount it’s like yes that’s right 30% off totally worth it yeah but we also had the books out faster than ever you know what I mean we had the books out yeah you know that was that’s the thing you know there was also another there

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was a sports card store in the mall that did sell also sell comic books they were technically listed as a sports card store right but people would go down there right people would go down there I bought I bought my first starm man there I bought Starman zero there they there they howed at me because we were buying a variant cover and like you guys only come down here to buy the variants like yeah well you guys are selling that why wouldn’t like how dare you come to our store and buy stuff yeah that’s but see

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that even that that still goes on though that still goes on like I heard a story recently where there was like a Batman like like like someone like like a cosplay like costume on like a mannequin and then like this little girl went over to it and like touched it like the daughter of this like Creator and the Creator and they were like don’t touch that that’s not for it’s just that’s not that’s not for sale and that’s nothing and it’s like she’s like okay I’m not g

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to shop here anymore he just like left you know was a Creator it was like pretty sure he has money you know what I mean that that that comic store in the mall offered me a position to run it the guy who was running the Comics nice guy Ray he he was leaving for college Ray Cornwall oh he said his last name that’s fine he’s not gonna listen right so he offered me the job and I’m like yeah I’ll do it but I ended up working at UPS instead and you know here 30 years later I’m still working at

03:01:06
UPS so I read the right move yeah but in the alternate reality of me running that store versus Legends with you in charge it would have been very interesting because I was more savvy than r wall and more talkative to people and you know we we have this love of comics but I chose UPS because I was still going to college at the time just worked out better with my College schedule and it worked out better for Legends because you didn’t have strong competition you had yeah we didn’t we had women

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who just didn’t care about Comics they just I don’t I don’t even know why they own the store I don’t know not they’re getting women by the way I’m just saying it’s two women who just maybe her husband started it and left yeah I think it was all baseball card I think the one husband had like all the baseball card stuff and then he wasn’t there anymore and I don’t know and then they were just there yeah Sports memories what have but 70% of it comic books Comics are bigger

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yeah 70% of the store and bins was all comics and they have like two three Showcases of uh of sports cards and they didn’t sell Pokemon they sold sports cards that was the other thing too was like like you could like that listen we we we set like a sales record in 98 I think we’re invited to go to like the the king Russia mall we sold them we had like the highest like profit or some something great I don’t even understand back then I didn’t understand any of that stuff right I it’s like hey I like this I’m

03:02:33
gonna tell people to buy it and then they bought it you know like I didn’t know you know one time I got in trouble was because I ordered a bunch of t-shirts because I wanted to like compete I was like well Hot Topic came out remember and then like that was like that and then I was like well let’s you know all these people are buying their t-shirts shirts there we should maybe get t-shirts well t-shirts there’s no money in t-shirts t-shirts like cost are like $14 I got to sell them for $16 so I

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buy I ordered like a hundred t-shirts different T just we should have we should have logo t-shirts when logo t-shirt started to happen so we should have that that’s us we should have that not them so I started ordering and then you know the graffiti would do different ones they would do the kingdom Comer man you know so it was cool we got a lot of that stuff but I got in so much trouble man because I didn’t know they weren’t profitable and I’m like who cares you know but then but we knew that I could

03:03:20
buy a Pokemon box for four it was like cost 45 bucks right I’d open it up and I would have like three Chase cards and that was like 35 45 50 bucks it was like Charizard like it was like it was one a box it paid for everything but that paid for so much stuff right there was local comic store before Legends our comic store opened there was one locally to me and I came in I was kind of mocking pogs she’s like don’t mock pogs that’s what got us through this year I’m like the year the year yeah there’s

03:03:51
always that ciens episode where mil house is like alback in POG [Laughter] for they resp spawn pogs yeah I don’t know it would be fun it’ be fun to see find they like spogs like mcfar has his own thing his own label by SPS Bud hey bu did you tell MC story last week yeah yeah yeah because Dan Dan sent me a meme the uh make you know kind of making fun of it it’s awesome it’s like being called bub or being called Bud by mcfar being called bub by Wolverine yeah that’s very natural that’s what you said it was like

03:04:27
in the wild you know it’s a very natural response yes it’s like a it’s like a seeing an alligator in the wild in Florida as compared to seeing them in like a farm you know you can go to the alligator farm but you could also see one in the wild and be like scared almost so yep all right we’ll wrap it up we’ll do it again next week I’ll do the do the Google Docs we’ll try to put under three we just now we went to 303 longest episode ever we’re trying to we’re trying to not but we can’t we

03:04:57
can’t which it’s impossible for us to not run a three so we work on Logo this week we’ll put some stuff up on the Instagram get some promotions get that Bine that’s right you got that Dan Dan the only one listening to the end I gota look I gota look at the algorithms and see he was like like two people listening to the end it’s like Zach and Dan that’s it everyone else is like I we told well yeah it was in the group chat that we told one of our friends or someone mentioned we should watch it and

03:05:25
then or or or something and then Walt’s like yeah he’s like I live it he’s like yeah I know I already heard those guys talk like he doesn’t need to to hear us talk more yeah I talked a l on the phone and he’s like he hears half the stories already yeah he doesn’t need he doesn’t need it that’s really funny that’s really funny but now this one we talked about tell them that you know maybe tag we’ll tag everyone like oh we’re not gonna tell you where we talk about you that’s right we’re not

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no time codes no time codes we gotta listen all the way 305 all right we’re ending on 305 four five 10 nine have a good week one

PETER A DELUCA AKAPD

AKAPAD is a versatile thinker known across Philadelphia, Europe, and even in the vast Multiverse as The Electic One. By day, he excels as an IT Mastermind, assisting individuals, both big and small, with a wide range of simple and complex solutions. In contrast, he is also a talented illustrator, a passionate comic book enthusiast, a creative content creator, and an active live streamer. Additionally, his podcast, “AKAPAD The Film Buff Podcast,” boasts an impressive catalog of over 500 episodes available on nearly every major platform.